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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 13:48    Post subject:  Should i have played god  

I was working down the shed this morning and watched a moth fly towards the window which was slightly open. After it had flapped against the middle of the window it started toward the opening and as it reached the edged of the glass it got caught up in a spiders web.

Should i have saved the moth and done the spider out of a meal or not interfear at all Question

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 14:09    Post subject:  

I would have thrown them both out Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 15:32    Post subject:  

Spiders need food too, both ways one of them is loosing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 17:57    Post subject:  

I would have killed the spider... I HATE spiders Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad HATE!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 18:07    Post subject:  

CrazySteffen wrote:
I would have killed the spider... I HATE spiders Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad HATE!



Without the odd spider web, there would then be flies. Who has a fly swat in there shed Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 18:57    Post subject:  

ME Very Happy
Its like a game, I see how many flies I can kill in one minute Very Happy
best game ever I NEVER LOSE! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 20:23    Post subject:  

No worries pal, just do this.

http://www.funny-games.biz/flysui.html
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 07:44    Post subject:  

This has happened to me before. I rescued a few bugs from the clutches of a spider only to be bothered by the same question. Was it my place to interfere in the natural order of things? Does the bug actually care? Would he have felt any pain. Is the spider pissed off now? Do I have to watch my back all the time now 'cause some pissed spider is running around with a resentment and need for payback Confused Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 20:07    Post subject:  

lol, i would only mess with the spider if it were inside my house.
if its outside then the spider can feast on annoying bugs all he wants.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 20:10    Post subject:  

I AM GOD!!! A MEGAUBERSUPERDUPEULTRAEDITION GOD!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 21:14    Post subject:  

CrazySteffen wrote:
I would have killed the spider... I HATE spiders Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad HATE!


There is some byword in Poland:
"szczęśliwy ten dom, gdzie pająki są".
It's mean about: ~happy that home where spiders are~.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 00:09    Post subject:  

My home must be ecstatic - harming spiders is forbidden in this house. I never was the same after reading Charlotte's Web as a kid.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 14:18    Post subject:  

dont harm them but throw them out, to where they belong. except they pay you rent.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 16:23    Post subject:  

Lawitz wrote:
dont harm them but throw them out, to where they belong. except they pay you rent.


they pay rent by drinking flies Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 16:25    Post subject:  

Shimmy_TSGK wrote:
Lawitz wrote:
dont harm them but throw them out, to where they belong. except they pay you rent.


they pay rent by drinking flies Very Happy


And spreading nets to collect the airborne dust.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 20:15    Post subject:  

krazimu wrote:
This has happened to me before. I rescued a few bugs from the clutches of a spider only to be bothered by the same question. Was it my place to interfere in the natural order of things? Does the bug actually care? Would he have felt any pain. Is the spider pissed off now? Do I have to watch my back all the time now 'cause some pissed spider is running around with a resentment and need for payback Confused Shocked Shocked Shocked


Don't worry about bugs feeling pain, spiders have some sort of thingy that numbs the bug they're about to eat so it doesn't feel any pain. If you don't let spiders eat their prey, they'll be after you Shocked
So make sure you throw them out and lock the house Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 21:08    Post subject:  

Also dont forget the 3 or 4 spiders that you yourself eat every year. This is how many crawl into our open mouths while asleep.. down out throats and into our stomach, where the digestion progress happens regardless... (as a vegetarian i try to sleep with my mouth closed Wink)

As a result i dont think we should harm any animals at all, including spiders or flies. The ideal situation in this case would to just let nature take its only way. If the fly was dumb enough to get caught in a web, then it would not have passed on anything good to its offspring, and the whole fly race would have suffered slightly Shocked Shocked A clever fly, would not have been tricked!!

Spitfire wrote:
Don't worry about bugs feeling pain, spiders have some sort of thingy that numbs the bug they're about to eat so it doesn't feel any pain.


This, im afraid babe, is not true.

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Nervous system

The central nervous system of a spider is in the cephalothorax. It includes the brain, which is connected to a large group of nerve cells called the gandlion. Nerve fibers from the brain and gandlion run throughout a spider's body. The nerve fibers carry information to the brain from sense organs on the head, legs, and other parts of the body. The brain can also send signals through the nerve fibers to control the activities of the body.

I.E it can feel pain as any human could!

From this link , about half way down..
Next time you see your biology teacher steph, give him/her a good kick from me please XD

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 22:05    Post subject:  

sargE....
SHe sayd that SPiders just make the pray numb so it wont budge wile swalowing, not that thay dont feel pain cuz thay are bugz Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 22:24    Post subject:  

Freelancer wrote:
sargE....
SHe sayd that SPiders just make the pray numb so it wont budge wile swalowing, not that thay dont feel pain cuz thay are bugz Razz
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Embarassed

well... i dropped the ball there..

Reading through wikipedia however, says that a spider can "inject neurotoxins that can spread through the prey's entire body and interfere with vital body functions". Nothing about the prey feeling no pain, infact, if your vital oragns were shutting down you would feel immense pain Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 23:03    Post subject:  

Spitfire wrote:
If you don't let spiders eat their prey, they'll be after you Shocked
So make sure you throw them out and lock the house Wink

Shocked *looks behind him in fear* Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 03:23    Post subject:  

Spitfire wrote:

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If you don't let spiders eat their prey, they'll be after you
So make sure you throw them out and lock the house


i dont think locking your door would do any good.... they use a crowbar to get in anyway.. Rolling Eyes
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