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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 19:39    Post subject:  Help im building my own custom made custom played computer  

Hi. i have everything sorted out like my hard drive video card , power supply ,graphics card,mobo, heat sink and fans. but what i need to know is what processor should i use. would a reguler solo core 3.0ghz be better than a 1.6ghz dual core
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:01    Post subject:  

If you dont do extreme overclock i strongly recommend AMD

if you are a overclocker and a regular bencher, use intel


AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ (3.2Ghz each core)

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 (pretty much the same)

all depends on your price range!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:14    Post subject:  

well i dont plan on over clocking anything. all together the price will be $1018.25. Here is a link to all i am buying. if u can ok this breen that would help http://www.geeks.com/removeitem.asp?LineId=22909554
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:22    Post subject:  

shop items are stored in a cookie I think thats why only you can see them. you have to write the items or give their specific links. Wink
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http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HAPPY-4
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http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CMI-775-14B
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=VS11307-1W-R

Heres all the good stuff
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:32    Post subject:  

Would have been nice if you could have just written em out, rather than ask us to open each link. Rolling Eyes

I have built my last 3 computers and one thing i would say is that if you aren't all that experince with thinks like drivers, sata drives etc then buy a new PC. You will have teething troubles with a self build. Hope you don't think i'm being patronising, just trying to help.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:42    Post subject:  

then you will never learn. you have to make a beginning and after you build your first one its easy and you get what you want for lesser money.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:45    Post subject:  

i plan on using 2 500 gb sata drives. can i use 2 with this setup. also will i have to change the jumpers on the drives? the mobo does come with a disc for the drivers. what other things should i consider when i try to build this mug. when i bought the computer that i use now from ebay, i changed everything from it. I.E. drives, memory, hard drive, updated the bios, video card all that. so i do have some experience with it
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:46    Post subject:  

yea man amd + nvidia + asus + seagate + 2GB's corsair = winning combo in a computer.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:54    Post subject:  

only thing about me and amd is that i dont know how it works. and the numbers are wierd. it doesnt tell me how fast it goes. like this AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000. thats very confusing to me
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:54    Post subject:  

uhm.. ill post some stuff for you Smile

Medium End: (480€)

Quote:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Dual-Core
RAM: Kingston 2GB DDR2 667Mhz PC5300
GRAFICA: GeForce 8600GT 256MB DDR3
FONTE: PSU NOX Urano 500W
BOARD: GIGABYTE GA-M55S-S3 - Socket AM2 AMD


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GFX: CARD: XFX GeForce 8800 Ultra
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+
RAM: MUSHKIN KIT 2GB DDR2 @ 1066MHZ
PSU: Gigabyte Odin 800W
MBOARD:


This is what im going to eventualy buy, I still need to find a motherboard for this!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 20:59    Post subject:  

how is the processor put in. is it just like intel's processor. how fast does the first processor go. i would go with amd cuz they dominate with their processors but i dont know what to look for
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 21:14    Post subject:  

dablackdude989 wrote:
how is the processor put in. is it just like intel's processor. how fast does the first processor go. i would go with amd cuz they dominate with their processors but i dont know what to look for



uh-uh.

a5200+ works at 5GHz total (combined with 2 cores)

a6400+ works at 6GHz


if they have the same thing as mine, take 600MHz and you have the perfomance
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 21:52    Post subject:  

personally i'd go for a core 2 duo or quad core

the sweet spot is at the 6600 chip the dual core and the quad core

and they love to be overclocked Very Happy


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

beware dude they murk you especially that DrBreen Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 22:22    Post subject:  

well i did some research and im gonna go dual core. im not gonna over clock though. i am gonna use a 8600GTS card. dx10 yay. should i SLI this sombitch?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 22:34    Post subject:  

I think you'll need vista for dx10. SLI is pointless at that spec. Re overclocking - again pointless if your rig is already more than capable of handling what's out there at the moment - more relevant for adding processing power in a year or 2. Quadcore is also a bit pointless as few applications use it. Definately go for 2 HDs raid 0 - faster the better and widescreen VDU. Oh and RAM of course. Enjoy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 22:39    Post subject:  

BTW. My personal opinion that folks overlook the full economic costs. Work out how long it will take you to build it. Multiply no. hours it takes by your hourly pay (if you work) and then work out if buying off the shelf is still dearer.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 22:41    Post subject:  

oh yea i did that. way before i even considered buying a computer. its in the budget. i can pay it off in 2 months
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:13    Post subject:  

if you're not going to overclock, i recommend the 6400+

it beats the E6600 easily
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 15:49    Post subject:  

dablackdude989 wrote:
i plan on using 2 500 gb sata drives. can i use 2 with this setup. also will i have to change the jumpers on the drives?

there are no jumpers for s-ata unless you use s-ata 2 hdds with an s-ata 1 board.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 18:48    Post subject:  

Funny fact: I have DX10 in Windows XP
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 06:02    Post subject:  

ne who just an update on how that computer situation is coming. im plannin on takin this thing to the max. im maxxin it out ya digg. ima go from the top.

Acer 26"" flatscreen lcd monitor

2 120mm fans

7.1 surround sound xf1 fatal1ty sound card

2.66mhz Quad Core processor

680i SLI Mobo

2 8800 Geforce Ultra KO. i was thinkin bout overclocked but iono bout that

G5 mouse
G15 Keyboard

Windows Vista Ultimate

4gigs of OCZ memory

2 Blu-ray reader\writer dvd-rw

4 TB of space. lilke i said to da max

got a case that has a special air flow to the cpu so it gets its "square of clean air"

and 1000 watt SLI ready selective power PSU

Guess how much it costs Cool Laughing

around 5,300 Bones. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
oh and Breen how do i do this overclockin stuff?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:34    Post subject:  

Heres one from Voodoo PC. Sorry it doesnt include a monitor Very Happy


Features :
infineon RED


Components :
Liquid Chilled Voodoo OMEN
Voodoo Performance and Stability Re-Engineering
Voodoo Renowned Cabling System
Voodoo Disaster Recovery System II
Voodoo EDGE Mousing Surface
Voodoo Koeskin System Binder
Voodoo MAGA Aluminium Chassis
Voodoo Illuminated Mask & Airbox
Eye of the Storm and Electric Veins
Voodoo Intel SLI Motherboard
Voodoo Stealth 1000 Watt Modular Silent Power Supply
Intel® Core™2 Extreme Quad-Core QX6850
Voodoo OMEN Supercharged Intercooler
Green Voodoo super coolant
4GB Corsair PC8500C5D DDR2
Hitachi 1000GB 32MB 7200RPM
Hitachi 1000GB 32MB 7200RPM
Hitachi 1000GB 32MB 7200RPM
Hitachi 1000GB 32MB 7200RPM
Molded Digital Card Reader
LG Blu-ray disc rewriter & HD DVD-ROM Drive
20X DVD-RW WITH LIGHTSCRIBE
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 ULTRA 768 MB Liquid Cooled
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 ULTRA 768 MB Liquid Cooled
Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
Logitech Z-5500 Digital THX 5.1
Voodoo GIGABIT Ethernet Connection
North America Shipping
Windows Vista Ultimate
Windows XP Professional
FUEL Software Essentials v2.0
Logitech® G15 Gaming Keyboard
Microsoft Habu Laser Gaming Mouse
3 Year Voodoo Desktop Warranty Policy
Desktop Platinum Upgrade Policy







~$12773.25 ~€9579.94
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:36    Post subject:  

Whats the point, HL2 still runs on a single amd3200+ processor and 1 graphics card. I'll sell you mine and keep the change from what you where going to spend, cause what other game WOULD you want to run Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 14:35    Post subject:  

You are robbing yourself when you dont buy a core 2 quad, look how cheap they are!..the price/performance ratio is waayyy better than AMD. AMD lost this round.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 15:33    Post subject:  

dablackdude989 wrote:
ne who just an update on how that computer situation is coming. im plannin on takin this thing to the max. im maxxin it out ya digg. ima go from the top.

Acer 26"" flatscreen lcd monitor

2 120mm fans

7.1 surround sound xf1 fatal1ty sound card

2.66mhz Quad Core processor

680i SLI Mobo

2 8800 Geforce Ultra KO. i was thinkin bout overclocked but iono bout that

G5 mouse
G15 Keyboard

Windows Vista Ultimate

4gigs of OCZ memory

2 Blu-ray reader\writer dvd-rw

4 TB of space. lilke i said to da max

got a case that has a special air flow to the cpu so it gets its "square of clean air"

and 1000 watt SLI ready selective power PSU

Guess how much it costs Cool Laughing

around 5,300 Bones. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
oh and Breen how do i do this overclockin stuff?

may be great, but its better to spend less and have a higher "frequency of pc buying". you can use a pc for 2 years and buy a new one, thats way better than buying the maximum possible once and then keep it for longer than 2 years. its not that much faster anyway. only buy the max if you can afford to buy it again after 2 years.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 16:06    Post subject:  

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You are robbing yourself when you dont buy a core 2 quad, look how cheap they are!..the price/performance ratio is waayyy better than AMD. AMD lost this round.


AMD hasent even released their Quad-Core yet

Intels best quad core scored 27.000 marks in 3Dmark06, with two squezed 8800 Ultras, with each core OVERCLOCKED AT 5GHZ, water cooled

Phenom scored 30.037 overclocked at 3.0 ghz each core, air cooled

Get some info's before making assumptions doctor freeman!
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dablackdude989 wrote:
ne who just an update on how that computer situation is coming. im plannin on takin this thing to the max. im maxxin it out ya digg. ima go from the top.

Acer 26"" flatscreen lcd monitor

2 120mm fans

7.1 surround sound xf1 fatal1ty sound card

2.66mhz Quad Core processor

680i SLI Mobo

2 8800 Geforce Ultra KO. i was thinkin bout overclocked but iono bout that

G5 mouse
G15 Keyboard

Windows Vista Ultimate

4gigs of OCZ memory

2 Blu-ray reader\writer dvd-rw

4 TB of space. lilke i said to da max

got a case that has a special air flow to the cpu so it gets its "square of clean air"

and 1000 watt SLI ready selective power PSU

Guess how much it costs Cool Laughing

around 5,300 Bones. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
oh and Breen how do i do this overclockin stuff?


Dont buy their Quad-core

Intel's quad core will only stop beeing shitty when they release their Nehalem Laughing

its made in the BIOS, i dont recomend overclock without flashing the bios first
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 17:59    Post subject:  

DrBreen wrote:

Phenom scored 30.037 overclocked at 3.0 ghz each core, air cooled

That was either faked or with triple Crossfire X2900 Rolling Eyes

In fact:
We dont know how fast the Phenom will be. And we dont know when it is buyable; the Paperlaunch is soon....
We know how fast the Kentsfield (C2Q) is now.
Yorkfield will be 10-30% faster than Kentsfield.

PS. An X2 6400 works with 3,2Ghz.
An Core2 CPU is 30% faster per clock
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 18:55    Post subject:  

Unyu wrote:
DrBreen wrote:

Phenom scored 30.037 overclocked at 3.0 ghz each core, air cooled

That was either faked or with triple Crossfire X2900 Rolling Eyes

In fact:
We dont know how fast the Phenom will be. And we dont know when it is buyable; the Paperlaunch is soon....
We know how fast the Kentsfield (C2Q) is now.
Yorkfield will be 10-30% faster than Kentsfield.

PS. An X2 6400 works with 3,2Ghz.
An Core2 CPU is 30% faster per clock


Kentsfield and Yorkfield is a piece of complete shit compared to the phenom technology

first phenom comes 10th september, maybe sooner.

i bet people will only buy Penryn because it supports SSE4 Laughing
and the cpu only suports 43 out of the 57 instructions

AMD is going to release a CPU (forgot its codename) featuring some new virtualization and TDP improvements

plus SSE5
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