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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 16:39    Post subject:  Breen has a question (Germans might know this more than i)
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500 years ago two guys made a theory, the one that sun was the center of the universe and another one that stated that the earth was the center of the universe

the first theory is more correct than the other but are both wrong

If the universe is infinit, both the sun and the earth can be center of the universe

my computer might be the center of the universe

The exact spot on which my balls are hanging, is the center of universe.

Discuss. (My balls.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 16:46    Post subject: Re: Breen has a question (Germans might know this more than i)
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DrBreen wrote:
If the universe is infinit


Incorrect.
The universe is extremely big. Impossibly massive but it is not infinite.

Working out the exact centre of the universe would also be next to impossible as the universe is expanding all the time. It might be in your balls this second, the next it could be 100 miles to your right Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 17:02    Post subject:  

WE ALL ARE IN MATRIX!!! NOOBS
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 17:04    Post subject:  

sarge, if the universe is expanding, and its not infinit, then there has to be room for it to expand

that 'room' must have something, Nothing, is already something
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 17:07    Post subject:  

but there has to be a core, because it expands in every way, thus there has to be a place where it all started (big bang's core?)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 18:11    Post subject:  

Dr Breen,
If you are going to start a philosophical thread at least get your facts right - the heliocentric theory of the solar system was postulated by Nicolaus Copenicus and he was Polish not German.
Everybody knows that the planet Zog is at the center of the Universe and not located in the vicinity of your appendages .

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 18:13    Post subject:  

DrBreen wrote:
that 'room' must have something, Nothing, is already something


Indeed there must be something, but this "something" is not part of our space-time meaning (for us) it does not exist. Whatever this "something" is, it cannot be understood by humans because it is so different to the laws of physics that bind us to our universe.

DrBreen wrote:
because it expands in every way

What makes you certain this is so? Wink

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WE ALL ARE IN MATRIX!!! NOOBS


Lol Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 18:59    Post subject:  

Zog Ecosse wrote:
Dr Breen,
If you are going to start a philosophical thread at least get your facts right - the heliocentric theory of the solar system was postulated by Nicolaus Copenicus and he was Polish not German.
Everybody knows that the planet Zog is at the center of the Universe and not located in the vicinity of your appendages .

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i know. i didnt know their names in english

and i didnt say he was german either, was pointing out at Germans because their known for this kind of shit Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 19:02    Post subject:  

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Indeed there must be something, but this "something" is not part of our space-time meaning (for us) it does not exist. Whatever this "something" is, it cannot be understood by humans because it is so different to the laws of physics that bind us to our universe.


you mean dark matter?

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What makes you certain this is so? Wink


well im sure, i have no proof, but i betcha.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 19:43    Post subject: Breen has a question.  

Here are a few philosopher we studied at the University of live on the planet Zog.

Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant who was very rarely stable.
Heideggar, Heideggar was a boozy beggar who could
think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume Schoppenhauer and Hegel.
And Whittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nieizsche couldn't teach 'ya
'bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stewart Mill, of his own free will
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato they say could stick it away,
Half a crate of whiskey every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
And Hoppes was fond of his dram.
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart.
I drink, therefore I am." (I think???)

Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.

Apologies to Monty Phtyon

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 19:59    Post subject:  

this is a more of a physics thread.. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 20:13    Post subject:  

DrBreen wrote:
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Indeed there must be something, but this "something" is not part of our space-time meaning (for us) it does not exist. Whatever this "something" is, it cannot be understood by humans because it is so different to the laws of physics that bind us to our universe.


you mean dark matter?


Nope. I was refering to the stuff outside our universe that you referred to. The stuff that our universe is expanding into, we cant study it because it doesnt exist in our laws of physics (I.E not in our universe)

dark matter is matter that we cannot see or detect (very easily Wink). It accounts for more than 50% of the universe's total mass. Without it, it wouldnt be the universe we knew.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 20:38    Post subject:  

sargE wrote:
DrBreen wrote:
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Indeed there must be something, but this "something" is not part of our space-time meaning (for us) it does not exist. Whatever this "something" is, it cannot be understood by humans because it is so different to the laws of physics that bind us to our universe.


you mean dark matter?


Nope. I was refering to the stuff outside our universe that you referred to. The stuff that our universe is expanding into, we cant study it because it doesnt exist in our laws of physics (I.E not in our universe)

dark matter is matter that we cannot see or detect (very easily Wink). It accounts for more than 50% of the universe's total mass. Without it, it wouldnt be the universe we knew.


Acctualy Dark matter and dark energy is 90% of total Matter, normal baryonic matter is only 10%
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 21:11    Post subject:  

Considering dark engery is a force, it hardly be counted as matter Wink

ratios between matter, dark matter and dark energy are shown here (without gravity included in the equation)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 21:18    Post subject:  

I thought after the normal half life series Breen got Deballified :S
Did you spawn new balls dude?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:13    Post subject:  

sargE wrote:
Considering dark engery is a force, it hardly be counted as matter Wink

ratios between matter, dark matter and dark energy are shown here (without gravity included in the equation)


yeah

lets assume dark matter is physical, maybe the reason why we cant see it its because its nonbaryonic matter, meaning that it doesnt consist of the protons and neutrons of “normal” matter. What’s more accurate is that it doesnt interact at all with electricity or magnetism..

some people say that dark matter can have 2 hypothetical particles: axion and neutralino, which tbh are ghost particles

EDIT: about the axion..

maybe it does exist,but i bet we wont be able to see them, nor our kids, nor our grandsons, nor their grandsons

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:14    Post subject:  

Shimmy_TSGK wrote:
I thought after the normal half life series Breen got Deballified :S
Did you spawn new balls dude?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:25    Post subject:  

What if the nothing is expanding at a greater rate than the universe? - that would mean the universe is shrinking. Shocked OMG OMG HANDS ON HEADS - HEADS BETWEEN LEGS - KISS ASS GOODBYE Razz Very Happy Sad Rolling Eyes Question Mr. Green Idea Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad Arrow Wink urla urla!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:30    Post subject:  

Diet H2O wrote:
What if the nothing is expanding at a greater rate than the universe? - that would mean the universe is shrinking. Shocked OMG OMG HANDS ON HEADS - HEADS BETWEEN LEGS - KISS ASS GOODBYE Razz Very Happy Sad Rolling Eyes Question Mr. Green Idea Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad Arrow Wink urla urla!!


it has been said that the universe will shrink yes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:36    Post subject: Re: Breen has a question (Germans might know this more than i)
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sargE wrote:
DrBreen wrote:
If the universe is infinit


Incorrect.
The universe is extremely big. Impossibly massive but it is not infinite.

Working out the exact centre of the universe would also be next to impossible as the universe is expanding all the time. It might be in your balls this second, the next it could be 100 miles to your right Laughing


Hmm Confused . Not infinite. So I suppose when reaching the end it stops. But if I could build a rocket and launch it into space and start a journey to the end of the universe. There must be something that will block me from getting further Confused . If that is the case, there must be a way to see or touch its backside... Confused

Wanna know my theorie about the existence of the human race? Very Happy
First there where dinosaurs and they were living happyly feeding themselves with giant trees Smile . There were no humans poluting or killing the planet at that moment Smile . They didnt even exist... Shocked
Then all out of the sudden a giant asteroide appears and slams into the earth causing an enormeos dustcloud in the atmosphere Surprised . Because of that the big dinosaurs died Sad Sad . But this asteroide could have brought some other organisms to our planet Confused . Virusses. These virusses evolved in time to creatures like us or into deseases like cancer, HIV,... .

What do you think of this?? Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:38    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 23:40    Post subject:  

well.. i suppose some bacteria could have been originated from the asteroid Shocked

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 00:00    Post subject: Re: Breen has a question (Germans might know this more than i)
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Knife wrote:
sargE wrote:
DrBreen wrote:
If the universe is infinit


Incorrect.
The universe is extremely big. Impossibly massive but it is not infinite.

Working out the exact centre of the universe would also be next to impossible as the universe is expanding all the time. It might be in your balls this second, the next it could be 100 miles to your right Laughing


Hmm Confused . Not infinite. So I suppose when reaching the end it stops. But if I could build a rocket and launch it into space and start a journey to the end of the universe. There must be something that will block me from getting further Confused . If that is the case, there must be a way to see or touch its backside... Confused


It is theoretically possible but your rocket would need to be travelling faster than the speed of light to reach the edge of the universe (which is impossible according to einstein.. who is known to be wrong lol).

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 00:20    Post subject:  

You asked for me Laughing

Take this:
The universe doesnt extends. But the mass in it extends. (The stars move away from each other)

When you would come to this called end of universe nothing blocks you because there is nothing except you. Behind this end is just no mass. You could call this: border-of the mass; So please forgot this border; it is just there because the mass moves to slow to be already behind that

So the universe is endless but the mass is concentrated more or less Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 02:13    Post subject:  

This Thread cleared only 1 thing. Laughing

Some should spend more time with their Schoolwork then browsing Forums and playing FPS.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 02:25    Post subject:  

Does anybody want to discuss quantum mechanics next, or can we just go an frag the f*** out of each other? Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:23    Post subject:  

Zog you can try making a theory of what caused big bang Laughing


good luck with that
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:52    Post subject:  

eXs|DanielAndres wrote:
This Thread cleared only 1 thing. Laughing

Some should spend more time with their Schoolwork then browsing Forums and playing FPS.


haha i agree.

btw zog, in your nice poem, i think it should be Hobbes and not Hoppes Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 13:02    Post subject:  

hi guys...
most of the stuff u wrote is wrong
hey breen u said something realy intelligent "Nothing, is already something" right cuz the room has to have a temperature(Uncertainty principle) and as Einstein told us that energie is equivalent to matter(E=mc²).
sargE:"Considering dark engery is a force, it hardly be counted as matter " false false false Evil or Very Mad ever heard of E=mc²???
Diet H2O plz if u want a physical discussion dont talk about what is outside the universe, or befor the big bang...
sargE:"It is theoretically possible but your rocket would need to be travelling faster than the speed of light to reach the edge of the universe" u said it the roket has to travel faster than the speed of lifght... so its ever theoretically impossible (Special relativity).
WOW Unyu nice theory, i like it. so that means that the universve would still be as big as a Planck length(1.61624 × 10^-35 m) Confused
Zog Ecosse: "Does anybody want to discuss quantum mechanics"
ya i'd love to...
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