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Lord Toothpaste · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 01:24 Post subject:

Here is what I'm running currently

Dual Core Intel Pentium D 950 3.40GHz
2 gigs OCZ DDR2-SDRAM
10,000 RPM WD Raptor 72gig main HD
7,200 RPM WD 200gig storage HD
2x nVidia GeForce 7900 GT Overclocked with SLI
ASUS nVidia nForce4 SLI Intel Edition rev. A3 motherboard

MeekMeekle · Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 847 Country:

that's a very nice system lord toothpaste!

mine is a dual core amd 3800 with a BFG 6600 GT OC, and a nice viewsonic monitor! Very Happy

CHRIS CARNAGE · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 02:32 Post subject:

Silverstone Temjin 3 case (black)- I dremeled my initials in the side, with the low temp red light inside it looks bad ass. the Temjin 3 is the best case ever - buy one.
AMD 4000+ processor
4 GB of RAM
1 250 GB HD @ 7200RPM
1 74 GB HD @ 10,000RPM
NVidia 6800 GT video card
ASUS A8NSLI Deluxe motherboard
Creative Audigy 2 ZS
19" LCD Monitor
1 pair of stereoscopic glasses

I used to have a liquid cooling system until one day it started screaming and shut down in the middle of the night. - It worked really well while it lasted though.

I also have various sound controlling devices and lights and things.

underscore_n0rm · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 23:41 Post subject:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (2 GHz) Hyper Transport, (2x)512MB DDR400 Corsair RAM, 250GB SATA2 Western Digital HDD (system), 320GB SATA2 Western Digital HDD, PNY Nvidia GeForce 7600GS (400MHz core) with 512MB GDDR2, Gigabyte K8N-SLIPRO Motherboard. Aspire X-plorer case with the 4 reflectors broken off. Some Cheap PSU that is gonna kill my whole system. A dimming 19" CRT monitor that is giving me eye cancer. A cheap white keyboard, and a logitec wireless optical mouse. maybe 4 or 5 stereo speakers(2.2).

Im running windows 3.1 in 320x200

underscore_n0rm · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 23:45 Post subject:

Diet H2O_TSGK · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 23:54 Post subject:

Good info.

Osiris - you say:

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 00:14 Post subject:

Diet H2O_TSGK · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 00:31 Post subject:

TY

MeekMeekle · Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 847 Country:

*laugh out louD* .. oh man!! that dual screens dual cat picture is incredible! I love it.

Ma[X]u'][' · Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 245 Country: Browser:

Rofl

PS.: I love those cats Razz

eXs|DanielAndres · Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 626 Country: Age: 47

Hahaha,

natural Mousepads Laughing

I love it... Cant stop crying here lol Very Happy

Lawitz · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 16:14 Post subject:

underscore_n0rm · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 18:30 Post subject:

[ TSF ] LORD DAVROS · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 19:36 Post subject:

Hmmmmmmmmmmm
well amd have just relised a new chip here in england and we have been able to get th intell duo her for some time and the pepole i know who build pcs for a living dont like them.....
its called the am2 which folows on from the 969 socket that i have.
i also find that even with my new ati radion 1950 pro graphics card that if i turn down the pic quality the fps still goes up so i can only asume that the 2 cards would be better.... Sad

but as i said in anearlier post i made the mistake of not knowing my chipset b4 buying Crying or Very sad

so i cant fit them both with out it going bang LOL or changing my mother board and chip ....

Yes i see that overclocking does have some advantages but i dont know enough to guage the benefit ie how much is safe with out over heating and shortening the lifespan. also i thought that you couldn't clock the cpu with out alterating other things as well.. Confused

I think that is about the limit of my knowledge so ill leave it at that.

Just so you know my board is msi my ram is kingston 512 x 4 but i dont think im on ddr2 yet and my cpu is an AMD athlon 64x2 with1152+1152 cashe operates at 2200mhz. WELL thats what it says on the box so I asume that it got just over 1 meg of cashe on each of the two cores ....

Lawitz · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 20:34 Post subject:

am2 is not a chip, its the socket and its not new. the amd64 cpus for it are not as good as the core 2 duo cpus for the 775 socket. I didn´t say you don´t gain any fps, but without a really high resolution the performance gain is not worth spending so much money.

good cooling is required of course. in my case it´s a watercooler so I don´t have to worry about overheating. but good aircoolers are ok as well, it doesn´t have to be a watercooler to overclock. the lifespan is shortened because you have to increase the voltage, but only so much that it won´t break during the time you use the cpu. the better the cooling, the longer the life span.

your cpu has 2x512kb cache, so 1mb total. and your socket is called 939.

Freetux · Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 691 Country: Browser: Age: 37

My lovely shiney new pc, built by me Very Happy

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Micro Star International Ms-7235 motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo 6300 @ 1.86ghz
Seagate Barracuda 320gb 7200 Rpm Sata-II hdd
Radeon X1600 Pro 512 mb
2 gb Crosshair Ddr II 333 mhz
Ms Tech Case ( its see through Very Happy

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Crappy 19 Crt monitor
Crappy Siemens Keyboard
Basic 3 button laser mouse with scroll wheel.

Concerning overclocking im unsure whether my system would be stable under over clocking.

I have a side mounted fan in the case and the psu has a 120mm fan that sits directly above the processor.

Currentley the processor runs about 40 - 45 c on full load.

Osiris or Lawitz I know you guys know a bit about overclocking.

Do you guys think i could safely overclock without having to invest in water cooling? My bios has a "novice" overclocking option maybe ill play around with that

Phew long post Shocked

Ps dont suppose lord toothpaste or Chris Carnage would like to swap systems Razz

Lord Toothpaste · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 21:01 Post subject:

[ TSF ] LORD DAVROS · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 21:44 Post subject:

Hi raf I was running a radion 1600 pro and found that when i put one of my 1950 pro cards in the gain in game play was a lot . I think that lawitz might agree with me that your bigest gain would b to up your graphics card first ....

Lawitz you r probably right as im not good on the knowledge where building pc s is concerned but how can you put into terms that i will understand ie something i can measure against what gains can b had by clocking. And you tend tos tick to what you know .
IF i was to clock mine what sort of gains might i notice...
I have an xblade case 1 fan in the frount 1 in the side 1 on cpu one built into graphics card and a new powersuply. which is 600 w HERE IS THE LINK
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-018-OC&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=

IE if you gave me a std cosworth seira car and gave it stage 1 chip i would know that you would get 40 horse power and thats quite a bit...

OOPs and yes you r right 939 my typing error sorry.. Embarassed

cu later...... Very Happy

Plasmo_TSGK · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 21:50 Post subject:

You can overclock quite well without watercooling. But to get to the highest clock speeds you need something like the Tuniq Tower (there's usually a fan in the middle of the heat sink). Even then, I'm not sure how those speeds compare with what you can get with water. That being said, something like the Tuniq Tower (or Scythe Ninja or Infinity) will probably get you better performance than a poorly designed WC system.

Lord Toothpaste · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 22:45 Post subject:

Jesus that things even more beastly then my heatsink

(not my case but you get the point)

Lawitz · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 03:57 Post subject:

don´t ask me how to overclock, I haven´t done it myself yet, so this will be my first time. I have read in some forums about how to do it and I will soon do it.

the 2.2ghz 4400 can reach 3ghz with watercooling, but I´m not sure about how well aircooling would go. ask google and find some forums where it is discussed.

if you want to overclock you need a better cooler as the boxed cooler is not good enough.

also you should have ddr800 ram, 667 is too low.

check the benchmarks to see differences in performance: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795

my cooler:

[ TSF ] LORD DAVROS · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:20 Post subject:

In other words
Unless I spend money on faster ram and better cooling the amount that I will be able to clock it by is probably not worth bothering with.
Also as I only have 512 meg of cash on each side and that would hold it back as well.
So for me I would guess that the best option would be to buy a new mother board some faster ddr2 ram and an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ 3.00GHz (Socket AM2) , or a faster chip than mine as that one is a little expensive for me at the moment....
I dont know how much money water cooling or better air cooling costs but i guess its half way to a new chip any way....
I recon as all I do with my pc is business filing and play hl2 it would be silly of me to spend a fortune on a masive pc.BUT what the hell its nice to have a realy good machine anyway Very Happy

Having said all that I wouldn't want to make it unreliable or shorten the life expectancy of the cpu drasticaly.

I spoke to the guy who built my pc and yes the amd2 is not a new chip BUT thay have made some changes which mean that it is very slightly slower but it will do a lot more things at once without crashing ...

PS I'll take a couple of pics of my pc to stick up here ....

Xmeagol · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 13:18 Post subject:

you guys are lucky

- AMD Athlon XP +1700 (1.7 Ghz :\ )
- 256MB SDRAM
- GF6200 (The only good thing on my pc) 256MB DDR2 AGP 8x
- 80GB HD 7200 rpm

i dno what else can i say about my computer :\

i can only say it sucks

The gfx card is really good, supports all DX9 games

HL2 looks so beatiful... of course i play in DX7 and everything on Low in HL2DM :\

Lawitz · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 15:47 Post subject:

[ TSF ] LORD DAVROS · Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 16:46 Post subject:

Understood
But that price I still have to say is the same money as the big cpu.

The reason I want to update my pc is because the pc that (stepson bendydick has simply wont cope with hl2. the cpu on it runs 100% flat out all the time to run the game and is causing regular crashes.
So the idea is to put bigger cpu in mine with ati mother board to go with 2 radion 1950 pro cards i already have and put those parts in his machine lol...

But I respect your point of view..... Razz

Also I would c the point of clocking mine a bit for now just to squeeze that little bit more out of it but i dont think i would do it to the point where i would need to put money into extra cooling..

Lawitz · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 02:48 Post subject:

if thats the case you could buy those things.

if you want to keep the stock cooler don´t overclock and do something good for your cpu Wink

also based on your knowledge I´d say you better don´t do things like overclocking yet until you know things better or you might destroy your cpu which would not be good.
anyway if you have ddr400 ram you will most likely not be able to overclock much. you need something better, it goes up to ddr600.

[ TSF ] LORD DAVROS · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 09:25 Post subject:

Ok mat I think I will save up and upgrade the machine..

O ne question though my new graphics card last night the core temp went up to 44 deg c and my fps droped a bit IS 44 deg ok and normal or was it the map I was on causing it . The normal temp when at idol is 38 deg.

Cheers cu later Very Happy

Lawitz · Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:22 Post subject:

I think it must have been the map. ati cards downclock when they get above 80 or 90°C I think. also 44°C when playing is a temperature only reachable with at least a watercooler. when you leave the game the temperature usually drops a lot, with my x850xt it was from 60 down to 45°C or so when I left the game. a good way to measure temperatures is run ati tool: http://www.3dcenter.de/downloads/atitool.php
its a tool to overclock and measure temperatures of ati cards. it has a 3d testing mode which works for both ati and nvidia cards. install ati tool and on the main program page click "show 3d view" this will open the 3d testing mode. run it until the temperature (which you have to enable in options under temperature measurement or something like that, my current gpu doesnt have a temperature chip so I can´t remember) doesnt go up anymore. if you notice that over the time of weeks or months the temperature climbs up take the graphic cards out and blow through with a can of compressed air so the dust gets out.

underscore_n0rm · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 00:01 Post subject:

[ TSF ] LORD DAVROS · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 08:15 Post subject:

thanks lawitz the graphics card is brand new so dust not a prob the temp measurement i used was from the ati controll center which i downloaded from ati.this does have an overclock prog built in and determins the best settings for the pc automaticaly. and the 3d that you mentoined but when i tried to overclock it at all even the smallest amount the screen emediatly started to flicker.
just b4 i download from the link u posted above is that one the same as the one i already have.
ps the card does have its own fan and ducting built into it already. which pushes the air out the back..... Very Happy