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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 23:36    Post subject:  top 100?  

Some respectable players told me they don't like server I as much as they used to, because there are a lot of new players on it.

I read about somebody else's idea of having a server only for the top 100 ranked on their servers.

So maybe, would it be a good idea to have this system for server I, or some other TSGK server?

I'm not answering the question myself, because I don't know. I do believe that having a server like that in the TSGK fleet will draw a lot of players and would produce nice games, but it wouldn't be good if the newer players don't get to learn from the more experienced, i.e. if the 'elite' would only play themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 00:01    Post subject:  

what i gather is that some people are complaining that when the new people smg them they take off a 100 points.

hmmm top 100 server, it's a cool idea but no one will play with the new kids if that server goes up Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 00:04    Post subject:  

there was top 5000 (or 500?) And it Phaild....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 00:05    Post subject:  

Personally I don't think it's a good idea, due to the reasons mentioned above. Being in the top 100 doesn't mean you are a good player, games on that server will also have their bad things just like the fights on server I. I think it woual boast the "gotta get points" feeling even more especially with the new players resulting in things like multiple accounts just to play on the top 100 server.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 00:11    Post subject:  

Yes, thought about that. It would of course attract point freaks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 00:12    Post subject:  

TSGK did have a top server once. Look at some old threads. As I recall it was discontinued due to inactivity. If folks don't like server 1 there's plenty others. XIX is very nice, has a choice of maps and is not used often enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 00:15    Post subject:  

Diet H2O_TSGK wrote:
TSGK did have a top server once. Look at some old threads. As I recall it was discontinued due to inactivity.


Ah, didn't know about that. Case closed?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 00:19    Post subject:  

As i sayd,this Idea was done before,and it was tragic
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 01:15    Post subject:  

Freelancer wrote:
As i sayd,this Idea was done before,and it was tragic


You're not just saying that to spam a cat picture? Wink
Nah, seriously, if it has been tried and it failed, ok, next idea.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 01:22    Post subject:  

If you did a top 100 server the forum would be full of players moaning that they cant get on thing .... leave well alone. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 01:54    Post subject:  

Cannon Foddr wrote:
Diet H2O_TSGK wrote:
TSGK did have a top server once. Look at some old threads. As I recall it was discontinued due to inactivity.


Ah, didn't know about that. Case closed?

http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?t=114

Opened Fri Jul 07, 2006, closed Sat Aug 12, 2006 (Currently TSGK Serv XVII).

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 04:13    Post subject:  

The playing elite?. The idea of grading had passed through my head briefly.
I think I must have been pissed at the time Confused

This is one step below pro playing. Evil or Very Mad

The smg novices, or freaks, are part an parcel of the game. Frustrating as they may be. Evil or Very Mad

The only way for those who have no natural talent, like myself, is by experience. Now, you are not going to get that by being exclude from playing where this can be found.

The top players are obvious, but how do you chose the also rans in the top 100? How do you promote or demote a player from the top 100?

You could use the Global Stats but then again would all of the top 100 want to be part of this setup? I think not. Then you argue about the outsiders who want to take part.

The idea of being excluded from anything but clan private servers and arranged clan fixtures is totally wrong. This is not what the game is about.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 18:51    Post subject:  

Although this aurgument has been suggested several times, I personally think that the smg should have 1 clip only on spawn. This would give newer players the incentive to move to find more ammo or change to/learn another weapon. This in turn would irrate the better players less.

This should only be done on server 1 though, so newer players have other servers to learn on should they not like the idea of moving from there camp site.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 19:50    Post subject:  

On the matter of players being irritated by SMG it should be pointed out once and for all that SMG over usage is a myth. While we hear the sound of SMG all the time, it rarely gets a kill. For example, look at how few times controllerboy, a regular of server 1, is killed by it.

The only point I am making re SMG is that in fact it is relatively ineffective.

So I hope more and more people use it when playing. Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 21:01    Post subject:  

SMG over usage is a myth, that's why it's the 2nd most used weapon on tsgk Rolling Eyes, i can hardly imagine one server being the exception of this..
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 21:19    Post subject:  

i dont get the people!

they are afraid to die ingame :\

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 21:26    Post subject:  

Freeman wrote:
SMG over usage is a myth, that's why it's the 2nd most used weapon on tsgk Rolling Eyes, i can hardly imagine one server being the exception of this..


Also this thread was about making a top 100 server, poeple saying its a bad idea, mine input was meerly to find a common middle ground that would help Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 21:53    Post subject:  

i think it would be a cool idea, at least worth the try because server I is probably the most populer betwen killboxers
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 22:01    Post subject:  

I like your Idea Borg. 1 clip would cause those to move and use other weapons.
I do see that the better the player the less significant the smg is against you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 22:19    Post subject:  

yes, when I was still a beginner the smg was very annoying but now I hardly notice any disturbance by it anymore. (except there are like 3 people coming at me with that horrible sound). I just dislike it when people who are good enough to not need it use it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 23:58    Post subject:  

Freeman wrote:
SMG over usage is a myth, that's why it's the 2nd most used weapon on tsgk Rolling Eyes, i can hardly imagine one server being the exception of this..

TSGK Serv I indeed does have a low usage of SMG:
http://hl2mp.tsgk.com/index.php?mode=servers&server_id=1&game=hl2mp

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 00:22    Post subject:  

Is it the nuisance of being killed by SMG? or just the noise it makes?

If it is the sound, u can replace the sounds client side with something from CSS surely?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 00:33    Post subject:  

Lawitz wrote:
yes, when I was still a beginner the smg was very annoying but now I hardly notice any disturbance by it anymore. (except there are like 3 people coming at me with that horrible sound)


Exactly. Sounds like you were in XXI with me last night Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 00:58    Post subject:  

Sadist wrote:
Is it the nuisance of being killed by SMG? or just the noise it makes?

If it is the sound, u can replace the sounds client side with something from CSS surely?


I changed the sound but I don't think it works in sv_pure, however the smg is quite honestly the least of my worries in game, unless it has a grenade flying from it there is very little damage to worry about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 04:19    Post subject:  

This was not about the smg. Crying or Very sad

Now I get a little bit further forward and some things annoy me, the smg being one of them.

I might be in a box and doing well and all of a sudden the game play changes. I have to cope with that Mad

You get so far and then there is nobody wants to play sticks or physics. Its a kill box !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On an ordinary map the rules are different.

Kill box is not the only game but its mine.

Coming back on topic, how is it possible to match the kill box player with a convential map player? The skills are the same but different, as is the weapon usage.

The top 100 killbox players are not the same as the convential map players but that does not make either any less skillfull.

Each to their own. This even applies to individual maps. You can shine on one and suck on another.

The idea of grading any player is a anathema (sucks) and the idea of a super league................ let's face it we are all in there to win and enjoy ( or has that ended up in the trash can)


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 05:10    Post subject:  

i have mixed feelings, i would be sad if it was server I though as i can never play properly there. My pc always acts so funny Neutral

might be cool, i just wouldnt be on it all the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:42    Post subject:  

Maybe it could be trailed for a couple of weeks, again just on server I?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:54    Post subject:  

Wouldnt hurt to try again i suppose, but maybe top100 is a little steep? maybe top200? (last i checked i was rank 199 Razz)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 14:49    Post subject:  

sargE wrote:
Wouldnt hurt to try again i suppose, but maybe top100 is a little steep? maybe top200? (last i checked i was rank 199 Razz)



Sorry i meant the 1 clip only smg, not the top 100 Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 15:39    Post subject:  

Sniperborg wrote:
sargE wrote:
Wouldnt hurt to try again i suppose, but maybe top100 is a little steep? maybe top200? (last i checked i was rank 199 Razz)



Sorry i meant the 1 clip only smg, not the top 100 Embarassed


Why not try out both? Smile

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