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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 09:32    Post subject:  TSGK Server I lag problems  

Since i play again i've been experiencing lag problems on server I (212.187.246.45:27015), my favourite Server.
My ping is usually good (<50), but there are lag spikes every few seconds.
So the game doesn´t make any fun for me. Mad I dont have issues on other (non-tsgk) servers.

My current system:
Intel Core2 E6600 @2,7GHz
2GB RAM
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 (1280x1024)
Internet Connection: 8 MBit/s Download, 768 kbit/s Upload

Any ideas?

By the way: Is there any HL2 Tweaker, like UT3Tweakomat for UT3?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:11    Post subject:  

What are your rates?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 13:45    Post subject:  

I have this in my autoexec file and use f2 for a busy server, f3 a few on and f4 1-2 players.

rate "30000"

alias net33 "cl_cmdrate 30; cl_updaterate 20; alias netchange net66"
alias net66 "cl_cmdrate 50; cl_updaterate 45; alias netchange net100"
alias net100 "cl_cmdrate 70; cl_updaterate 60; alias netchange net33"

bind "F2" net33
bind "F3" net66
bind "F4" net100

alias netchange "net33"
bind "F4" netchange

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 14:21    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 17:10    Post subject:  

Diet H2O_TSGK wrote:
What are your rates?



How can i find them?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 17:41    Post subject:  

Should be in your config file.

cl_cmdrate
cl_updaterate
rate

Or when in game on the server, in console type each of them and it will tell you.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 19:35    Post subject:  

cl_cmdrate "30"

cl_updaterate "20"

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 19:58    Post subject:  

mumubär_TSGK wrote:
cl_cmdrate "30"

cl_updaterate "20"

try:
rate 50000

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 06:39    Post subject:  

Yeah rate is most important these days

just type:

rate 30000 (or 50000 per Osi)

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 08:49    Post subject:  

that didn´t help. Sad
still lag problems. can anyone send me his *.cfg files?

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 13:36    Post subject:  

Back up your CFG to your desktop, delete the one in your

C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\Your account name here\half-life 2 deathmatch\hl2mp\cfg

then run HL2.exe. Hl2.exe will automatically create you a new one with original default settings (Like a fresh install).

If that works then just reconfigure the new CFG file to suit your needs.

If you still lag, then its nothing related to your CFG file and you can use your backed up one again to save changing everything again.

Wouldn't recommend using other peoples CFG's or you could find that you've turned into st0n3dCabbag3_TSGK or whoever's CFG you nick at the press of a button. If you want a copy of mine, I can provide one later on, but I'm at work at moment.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 16:05    Post subject:  

Have u something change (provider,Os,Hardware etc...)?
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 17:29    Post subject:  

a complete reinstall of steam often solves problems. when my game starts to be glitchy that usually solves it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 21:16    Post subject:  

Try this mumu before trying a reinstall,

rate 30000
cl_cmdrate 66
cl_updaterate 66 to 33 (lower updaterate to stop choke or if your PC can't pull 66 FPS constantly)

cl_interp 0.1
cl_interp_ratio 1

It sounds like your interp_ratio is either too low or too high, causing fake lag unintentionally.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 01:23    Post subject:  

tested with 2 differnet inet providers and different hardware. no way! if there are more than 6 people playing on the server, if have lag problems.

fps went down to 15-20 fps! maybe the is a problem with the video card settings? i have also tested some different video card settings, still the same problem! going crazy with this issue.

i prefer to trow the whole pc out of the window... Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 02:25    Post subject:  

mumubär_TSGK wrote:
tested with 2 differnet inet providers and different hardware. no way! if there are more than 6 people playing on the server, if have lag problems.

fps went down to 15-20 fps! maybe the is a problem with the video card settings? i have also tested some different video card settings, still the same problem! going crazy with this issue.

i prefer to trow the whole pc out of the window... Evil or Very Mad

Drog of FPS is indeed a video card problem, do you have V Synchro turned on in the video settings?

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 03:52    Post subject:  

V Synchro is turned off. i think also it´s a video card problem or a graphic setting problem. driver update und new directx didn´t help.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:29    Post subject:  

mumubär_TSGK wrote:
V Synchro is turned off. i think also it´s a video card problem or a graphic setting problem. driver update und new directx didn´t help.


What Vid Card do you have?

My 8800gt performs well below what is should in HL2DM (well below the 7900 gs I had before it).

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:50    Post subject:  

Tomato Whiskey wrote:
mumubär_TSGK wrote:
V Synchro is turned off. i think also it´s a video card problem or a graphic setting problem. driver update und new directx didn´t help.


What Vid Card do you have?

My 8800gt performs well below what is should in HL2DM (well below the 7900 gs I had before it).


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My current system:
Intel Core2 E6600 @2,7GHz
2GB RAM
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 (1280x1024)
Internet Connection: 8 MBit/s Download, 768 kbit/s Upload

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 19:06    Post subject:  

I don't like Sapphire the fact that the video drivers are not well made, from mine and 2 friends experience.

Maybe get a new graphics card?
(original nVidia GeForce or ATI radeon)

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 21:43    Post subject:  

@all: what kind of video cards do you have and how many fps do you have on this server with player >6?

МųmųБẵЯ_TSGK:
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 (1280x1024): 15-20fps Crying or Very sad
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 (800x600): ~25fps

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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 22:06    Post subject:  

There is something wrong.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 22:36    Post subject:  

opti185 wrote:
There is something wrong.


I know that something is wrong, but what?

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 02:07    Post subject:  

gtamike123 wrote:
I don't like Sapphire the fact that the video drivers are not well made, from mine and 2 friends experience.

Maybe get a new graphics card?
(original nVidia GeForce or ATI radeon)

isn´t sapphire the same as any other ati card maker with the same catalyst drivers?

I will not buy another ati card. I´ve had 3 ati cards and all 3 broke.
1. x850xt under high stress it would freeze, broken from the start.
2. another x850xt, after 2 years it also started to freeze.
3. x700pro, fan broke after 1 year.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:46    Post subject:    

Lawitz wrote:
gtamike123 wrote:
I don't like Sapphire the fact that the video drivers are not well made, from mine and 2 friends experience.

Maybe get a new graphics card?
(original nVidia GeForce or ATI radeon)

isn´t sapphire the same as any other ati card maker with the same catalyst drivers?

I will not buy another ati card. I´ve had 3 ati cards and all 3 broke.
1. x850xt under high stress it would freeze, broken from the start.
2. another x850xt, after 2 years it also started to freeze.
3. x700pro, fan broke after 1 year.


I was talking about the main video card drivers for the Sapphire cards, catalyst drivers are optional.
But again from my and friends experience you can't use the catalyst version for the main ATI site,
only the Sapphire catalyst version from the Sapphire site, same with main video card driver updates.

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 13:40    Post subject:  

gtamike123 wrote:

I was talking about the main video card drivers for the Sapphire cards, catalyst drivers are optional.
But again from my and friends experience you can't use the catalyst version for the main ATI site,
only the Sapphire catalyst version from the Sapphire site, same with main video card driver updates.

my x700pro was sapphire and I could use the regular drivers from the ati/amd page, though I didn´t install the control center. looking at google its hard to see that such a problem exists. what happens when you try installing the regular ati drivers? and what cards have the problem?

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 14:41    Post subject:  

Lawitz wrote:
gtamike123 wrote:

I was talking about the main video card drivers for the Sapphire cards, catalyst drivers are optional.
But again from my and friends experience you can't use the catalyst version for the main ATI site,
only the Sapphire catalyst version from the Sapphire site, same with main video card driver updates.

my x700pro was sapphire and I could use the regular drivers from the ati/amd page, though I didn´t install the control center. looking at google its hard to see that such a problem exists. what happens when you try installing the regular ati drivers? and what cards have the problem?


One of my old g cards
Sapphire Radeon HD2600 Pro 512MB AGP

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 17:15    Post subject:  

maybe its this error you are getting which has been fixed by ati: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/CatalystAGPHotfix.aspx ?
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Have you updated the main card drivers from the Sapphire site?
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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 18:53    Post subject:  

I think i got it! Very Happy

For tests i played on a other sever with 16 players. fps:~100

Then i try TSGK Server I with 4 players: fps: 120 up to 299 Shocked

What i have done:


1) RAM set to Dualchannel Mode

2) Uninstall Steam and all Game Data

3) Uninstall Catalyst Control Center and all registry entries belonging to ATI

4) Install only ATI display drivers NOT Catalyst Control Center

5) Install Steam on C: (was on D: until now)

6) Defrag HL2 Gamedata

7) Use the following settings in autoexec.cfg:

rate "50000"
alias net33 "cl_cmdrate 30; cl_updaterate 20; alias netchange net66"
alias net66 "cl_cmdrate 50; cl_updaterate 45; alias netchange net100"
alias net100 "cl_cmdrate 70; cl_updaterate 60; alias netchange net33"
bind "F2" net33
bind "F3" net66
bind "F4" net100
alias netchange "net33"
bind "F4" netchange
cl_interp 0.1
cl_interp_ratio 1


8.) Start HL2 DM with this start parameters:
-heapsize 1024000 -novid -dxlevel 81


I will test it this week on TSGK Server 1 when there are a lot of players playing. I hope that solves my problem....

Stay tuned....

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