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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 09:48    Post subject:  Improve shotgun damage!!!  

Hi all,
there's a way to increase the range and/or the power for this weapon(exept double fire Very Happy )?
I find some players with this "blessed" shotgun capable to kill me in one shot from the long distance Shocked
Is this possible?and How???? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:24    Post subject:  

I feel like the faster you are (aiming the target), the more powerful is the Shotgun. Double shot is definitly deadly when in the head at low distance and whatever how high is the armor of your target, and is very effective at long distance as far as you still aim for the head.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:43    Post subject:  

As a matter of fact, u r one of these players Very Happy
so the secret is "double shot to the head", but it's not simply to do Crying or Very sad
anyhow...many thanks Wink
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Shottie hax ftw Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 15:14    Post subject:  

if you want to master the shotgun you need to play short range maps I assume. I see many people on maps like lockdown, lostvillage, lostarena, biohazard etc. who are very good with it and who often kill with only 2 shots. infact better with the shotgun than with the 357 in many cases which I find a bit weird, as I myself am very bad with the shotgun but not that bad with the 357. I often canīt even get 1 shot kills with the shotgun against still standing enemies Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 21:05    Post subject:  

I know a bit about shotguns. The Dm shotgun bears less relationship to the real weapon as the game does in real life.

Before one of the previous ( multitudionos ) upgrades it almost made it into the toy league.

Real world

Left barrel close patern full choke : right half choke more spread.

What you have now is a innefective weapon whch only does the biz at close range ( if you are lucky) Left, right same number of pellets.

Before alt fire put out 11 pellets and single put out 6. Now both modes put out 5 which ever mouse button you press. To make things worse alt mode uses 2 rounds and normal 1.

Try it on a blank wall. The pattern is totally random.

As a former shotty fan, I think now it is a waste of time and a last resort in a tight corner. There is more skill in the proper use of a rpg than just letting off a round and hoping for the best.

Steam uses Bikal rounds with ungraded shot and the cartridge packed with a bits of Pravda between the charge and the shot. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:22    Post subject:  

So I cant shoot davros from accross the map in v8 and make him go mad anymore?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:28    Post subject:  

Of course you can but you might not necessarly be aiming at him Laughing
Try looking at the shot pattern on a blank wall and move back. The wall heals itself now so it is not easy to visualise what is happening in a sequence of shots. What is appearent is that the shot pattern is random and over range, the spread will make it shotty less effective. If you get a good central shot density then the weapons can be used accurately over medium range. That means it is down to luck rather than skill. This goes a long way to explain why you can kill with one shot sometimes and others it takes many more. I find this very frustrating and reserve the shotty for taking campers and spawn killers heads off at close quarters.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:33    Post subject:  

I guess that would explain why sometimes it takes an age to kill a player sometimes.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 17:25    Post subject:  

JC Denton wrote:
Shottie hax ftw Wink


Oi! Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 19:02    Post subject:  

Epic bumb Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 23:51    Post subject:  

I'm a shotgun naab.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 00:31    Post subject:  

its a good combination to hit once with the 357 and then change to the shotgun if you are in low to midrange. you wont go out of ammo trying to shoot someone the second time with the 357 while they are aware of you thus making it harder. I mostly fire single shots because the double shot has a slight delay (or so Iīve been told) and if you end up messing the shot up you lose 2 rounds. its a weapon thats hard to master but its worth it. I still have to go a long way for that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 09:33    Post subject:  

YEs there is. You have to hit both primary and secondary fire button EXACTLY at the same time.

If your timing is correct, it massively increases the shotguns damage. but the timing is crucial.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:11    Post subject:  

Just to point out the comments I made about primary and secondry fire pellet count are no longer valid. One of the numerous updates since my initial post have restored the shotgun to the way it is supposed to function.
Also the walls and floor have stopped self healing so you can now actually compare the shot patterns from the shotgun.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:25    Post subject:  

Ghostdog82 wrote:
I'm a naab.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:36    Post subject:  

[AgC]Flushthetoilet wrote:
YEs there is. You have to hit both primary and secondary fire button EXACTLY at the same time.

If your timing is correct, it massively increases the shotguns damage. but the timing is crucial.


So is the swing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:27    Post subject:  

Wonderbanana wrote:
[AgC]Flushthetoilet wrote:
YEs there is. You have to hit both primary and secondary fire button EXACTLY at the same time.

If your timing is correct, it massively increases the shotguns damage. but the timing is crucial.


So is the swing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 14:59    Post subject:  

[AgC]Flushthetoilet wrote:
YEs there is. You have to hit both primary and secondary fire button EXACTLY at the same time.

If your timing is correct, it massively increases the shotguns damage. but the timing is crucial.

pressing both buttons at the same time? never heard of that before. isnīt that just a secondary shot if you press both at the same time?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 17:05    Post subject:  

Lawitz wrote:
[AgC]Flushthetoilet wrote:
YEs there is. You have to hit both primary and secondary fire button EXACTLY at the same time.

If your timing is correct, it massively increases the shotguns damage. but the timing is crucial.

pressing both buttons at the same time? never heard of that before. isnīt that just a secondary shot if you press both at the same time?

Well, as weird as it seems, I've already felt this thing. May be it's just in the head.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 18:21    Post subject:  

nex7one wrote:
Lawitz wrote:
[AgC]Flushthetoilet wrote:
YEs there is. You have to hit both primary and secondary fire button EXACTLY at the same time.

If your timing is correct, it massively increases the shotguns damage. but the timing is crucial.

pressing both buttons at the same time? never heard of that before. isnīt that just a secondary shot if you press both at the same time?

Well, as weird as it seems, I've already felt this thing. May be it's just in the head.


I do this also.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 19:38    Post subject:  

it does make a difference, u get instant death for some weird reason,maybe it's psychological lol
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:47    Post subject:  

Press both buttons at exactly the same time whilst at end of mouse curve (swing diet! Razz ) and in the air for instant death fun.

Both buttons does work a lot of the time on its own, the above works all of the time if done correctly.

Aim for the head.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 17:30    Post subject:  

Shimmy_TSGK wrote:
it does make a difference, u get instant death for some weird reason,maybe it's psychological lol


I agree, some players can shoot me with loads of pellets and I can carry on going. Others nail me once with a double even at far range and i die.

I've had 60 suit and full health and someone can still kill me in one double easy. There is a trick to using the shotgun I just aint figured it out yet. I also tend to use single shots rather than double. May go for the double button press later on and see what results i get with it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 06:36    Post subject:    

Wonderbanana wrote:
Aim for the head.


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 10:29    Post subject:  

StonedCabbage wrote:
Shimmy_TSGK wrote:
it does make a difference, u get instant death for some weird reason,maybe it's psychological lol


I agree, some players can shoot me with loads of pellets and I can carry on going. Others nail me once with a double even at far range and i die.

I've had 60 suit and full health and someone can still kill me in one double easy. There is a trick to using the shotgun I just aint figured it out yet. I also tend to use single shots rather than double. May go for the double button press later on and see what results i get with it.


single shots dont even compare to double mouse button shotty. it's damage of epic proportions lol

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 15:46    Post subject:  

double shot only starts to get interesting if you donīt miss 2 out of 3 shots. sometimes I miss by many meters lol.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 17:54    Post subject:  

sometimes i mrs her by 1 meter Sad
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 19:16    Post subject:  

I could never do so much damage with the shotgun, as i see other players doing, at a far distance, wich is what impresses me.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 14:36    Post subject:  

Try not to forget that you must aim ahead with double shot. Its supposed to be a hit scan weapon with both modes, but no matter what anyone says the double shot must be fired ahead of the player, this is why you miss Very Happy
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