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Sacrifist · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 32 Country:

Server VIII had 80 choke on all maps. It was pretty rediculous to say the least lol.

Fyckfaco · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 03:51 Post subject:

You might need to provide a little more detail for someone to help you. Like where you live in relation to the server, and what rates you are running Smile

It is possible to experience choke with no effect on gameplay, and it is also possible to lag with no choke. Please explain a bit more

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 05:45 Post subject:

Sacrifist · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 32 Country:

ya for some reason my settings went berzerk. Your wrong about the cl_updaterate 66
cl_cmdrate 66
commands as once I set them back to those numbers the choke was completely gone. Those 2 settings go hand in hand with the server tic rate, which the tsgk tic rates are 66 im pretty sure though the settings can vary per connection. Either way things are better for me now. It was pretty funny though because I had just changed my rate when the admin told me it was at 9999. Im guessing the culprit was a steam update as sometimes it will default these values.

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 06:22 Post subject:

Sacrifist · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 32 Country:

ya alot of variables are involved in it but that is what works best for me in that particular server. Some servers arent good enough to handle those numbers especially with a full load.

Sadist · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 08:41 Post subject:

Im confused, I get the reason why the choke is lower with those commands, but what is the advantage of having those higher values?

Cynyx · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 09:57 Post subject:

Diet H2O_TSGK · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:20 Post subject:

I can sympathise with this. I used to have terrible lag/choke etc on server 1 when it began to get crowded. And I used a whole range of rates to compensate but it never really worked. However, this stopped immediately when I got a higher spec PC. I'm not saying that that's all there is to it - but the change was immediate.

There can be a few players mentioning lag on server 1, but I notice that it only affects them. Presumably, if it was server side it would affect all of us.

I play server 1 frequently and I don't get lag at all now. I think the map itself affects things. When it's busy there is a hell of a lot of things going on, explosions everywhere, balls, nades etc etc which is fairly demanding on the average PC.

Lawitz · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 15:42 Post subject:

is it recommended to use these different high rates for games with very few people? I usually have no choke or loss and a low ping (fastpath or interleave low). btw. what are the default settings?

MeekMeekle · Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 847 Country:

default is:

cl_updaterate 20
cl_cmdrate 30

I also dislike it when people use updaterate of 10.

[DOH] Mick · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 22:12 Post subject:

You can set the server up so it sets the rates for the client you can make the client (player) have a min rate of what ever you make it here it is set at 20 and max of 100... the client can change rates but can not take the piss Wink

Sadist · Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 02:48 Post subject:

Cynyx · Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 14:01 Post subject:

u can't hit player with low settings.

I suggest you the following reading :

http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?t=1058
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking#Optimizations
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Lag_Compensation

Sadist · Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 15:06 Post subject:

thanks.

Ghost Dog_TSGK · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 02:29 Post subject:

[DOH] Mick · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:05 Post subject:

Some players on the [DOH] servers have used cl_cmdupdate 60 and cl_updaterate 10 this makes them very hard to hit ...

You tell them and all you get back is what are rates ?

One player did tell me he loaded a tweak script and when he removed it the rate changes stayed in the cfg file without him knowing until I told him.

He just thought he was really good and players were moaning because he was better than them Rolling Eyes

he did think it was odd that he juddered a bit but put it down to his Internet connection Laughing

Xmeagol · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 16:03 Post subject:

My settings:

cl_updaterate 30
cl_cmdrate 30

These 2 commands ned to have the same values, either its 30/60/101

i use rate 7500 beacuse its the best for my connection

High rates is overrated

Diet H2O_TSGK · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 16:05 Post subject:

[DOH] Mick · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 16:25 Post subject:

Rates don't have to be the same I have tried lots of different settings .
Here is what my settings are = Rate 20000 cl_cmdrate 30 cl_updaterate 20 with higher rates say 60 60 choke starts when more players join .

[DOH] Mick · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 16:29 Post subject:

DrBreen what is your connection Question

I have 16meg bb with 764 kbps upload Confused

Xmeagol · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 16:43 Post subject:

[DOH] Mick · Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 23:54 Post subject:

Cynyx · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:47 Post subject:

7500 in rate ...
More of than, u can't pass DETOX anticheat on my server cause to your DX7 settings...
DrBreen ... it's time to upgrade connection and hardware and stop to use settings of 90's... Laughing

Xmeagol · Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 13:56 Post subject:

impossible to get connection, im fine with 512K

interpolation will remain the same

i will always use the lowest resolution possible, DX7, and everything low!

except Anti-Aliansing, that will be always high.