TSGK Clan Forum

Zog Ecosse · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 04:05 Post subject:

The guts are the same unless I have got it badly wrong, or there have been porky pies told about the spec.

Zog

Jelly Fox · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 16:41 Post subject:

The Habu is laser and the Deathadder is infrared... so, yeah, you got it wrong! Smile

Product name: Microsoft Habu powered by Razer Precision
Device type: optical wired mouse
Sensor: Razer Precision Laser
Resolution: 2000dpi
Buttons: 7 (2+2+2+wheel)
Scroll wheel: vertical
Interface: 16-bit USB
Default USB polling rate: 1000Hz
Cord length: 210cm
Dimensions: 128x70x40mm

Product name: Razer DeathAdder
Device type: optical wired mouse
Sensor: Razer Precision 3G Infrared
Resolution: 1800dpi
Buttons: 5 (2+2+wheel)
Scroll wheel: vertical
Interface: 16-bit USB
Default USB polling rate: 1000Hz
Cord length: 210cm
Dimensions: 128x70x40mm

Click here for more info on the differences between them

Shimmy_TSGK · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 19:32 Post subject:

The Fox has spoken with hard facts and puts the speculation to rest.

Thank you Oh Wise One Mr. Green

Zog Ecosse · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 04:10 Post subject:

Read the original post -
http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_17&products_id=71

We are not talking about the same mice.

The original post is about a Razer DiamondBack not a Deathadder .
The Diamonback G3 I have sitting right in front of me has 7 buttons and a wheel.
It has a 1ms response time, the same as the habu which is what I was talking about.
You can put a Ford engine in a Ferrari shell and it still does not make a Ferrari.
I had a Trust gaming mouse which cost £15 and boasted 2400 dpi and it was even half as good as the DiamondBack.
Now we could split hairs about the definition of a laser as it applies to solid state semiconductor emitting devices..........

Zog

Lawitz · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 14:22 Post subject:

cheap mouses with high dpi emulate the high dpi, the sensor matters. I read that somewhere.

Jelly Fox · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 22:13 Post subject:

Freelancer · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 23:25 Post subject:

Well, i did not think to point out Only one mouse. i want to buy the best one for my wittle Pc Smile

There are 2 styles right? ppl who use the whole arm from the elbow to the fingers and ppl that use thayr Palm to drag teh Mouse around. Me thinks im the second style of Mouseez Idea

What is better Sensor or Laser? Question

Lawitz · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 23:31 Post subject:

laser is better.

Freelancer · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 23:38 Post subject:

gtamike_TSGK · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 23:50 Post subject:

Lawitz · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 01:50 Post subject:

its used in the top products and if it was inferior to led mouses, why would logitech etc. use it?

here is the scientific side of it found by google:

Shimmy_TSGK · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 02:23 Post subject:

Laser mice can't work thru glassy surfaces mr man Very Happy

Jelly Fox · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 05:20 Post subject:

Freelancer · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 08:05 Post subject:

Jelly...Its the Perfect DeathMachine for me indeed!

65 Impala SS · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 09:42 Post subject:

This thread is very witty and informative and Breen has even been fired!
GG TSGK!

Copperhead rules, even with the carpal tunnel syndrome.

Zog Ecosse · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:51 Post subject:

Ok I admit defeat an the laser aspect-

Multiwavelength LED and laser diode optical source
Document Type and Number:
United States Patent 5138624
Link to this page:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5138624.html
Abstract:
The invention relates to the design of multiwavelength LED devices having multiple-lobe optical spectrums and laser diode devices with multiple designated wavelengths wherein the devices are formed by stacking various active layers of selected semiconductor materials whereby each layer is assigned to be active at a different wavelength. The independent layers are active at different wavelengths based on both their material composition and Quantum Well geometry. Independent control of current to each layer is allowed which in effect controls the spectral intensity distribution and the spectral widths. The step of allowing independent control of the current is achieved by considering the probabilities of carrier capturing, recombining carriers at various active layers and minimizing the current through all the barriers and cladding layers and optimizing the current through each active layer by controlling the individual thicknesses. For the LED device, the window and absorption sections within a Transverse Junction Geometry scheme exist to aid in control of the current within the device. For both the LED and laser devices, the active layer region can be varied in thickness in order to tailor the optical intensity of the devices.

Follow the link if you want more information.

The practical difference between the devices as used in say for example a cheap laser pen appears to be that the current control is integrated into the semi conductor wafer itself. I expect the optical colimiter will be more precision made.
Provided the engine can supply the correct electrical parameters, the IR led and laser led are interchangeable. Unfortunately I can not find diagrams of the either mice to check out the hypothesis.

Zog