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Shimmy_TSGK
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Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 2444 Location: Dubai, 2 clicks away from Burj Khalifa Country:  Browser:  Age: 42
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 17:37 Post subject:
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BIIIIIESSSSSSSS!
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Diet H2O_TSGK
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Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 3282 Location: Ireland (right, left, then second on the right) Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 17:42 Post subject:
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At least Breen's spam is funny. Yours is just poo. Punk.
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Shimmy_TSGK
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Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 2444 Location: Dubai, 2 clicks away from Burj Khalifa Country:  Browser:  Age: 42
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 17:50 Post subject:
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Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
At least Breen's spam is funny. Yours is just poo. Punk. |
If you think he is so funny? Why don't you marry him?
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Diet H2O_TSGK
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Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 3282 Location: Ireland (right, left, then second on the right) Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 18:00 Post subject:
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Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
At least Breen's spam is funny. Yours is just poo. Punk. |
If you think he is so funny? Why don't you marry him? |
Cos he's my son. And there's a whole load of wrongness when a dad marries his son. You weird freakhead.
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Ghost Dog_TSGK
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pan!c_
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 18:21 Post subject:
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Killa/PPV

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 579 Country:  Browser:  Age: 35
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 19:08 Post subject:
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Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
BIIIIIESSSSSSSS! |
Hey !
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Ghost Dog_TSGK
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Diet H2O_TSGK
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Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 3282 Location: Ireland (right, left, then second on the right) Country:  Age: 53
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Xmeagol
Incontinent beast

Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 3612 Location: Oh my god look behind you it's an evil combine advisor with a raging erection oh my god. Country:  Browser:  Age: 703
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 21:21 Post subject:
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Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
At least Breen's spam is funny. Yours is just poo. Punk. |
If you think he is so funny? Why don't you marry him? |
Cos he's my son. And there's a whole load of wrongness when a dad marries his son. You weird freakhead. |
Like father like son. <3
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Killa/PPV

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 579 Country:  Browser:  Age: 35
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 21:39 Post subject:
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Xmeagol wrote: |
Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
At least Breen's spam is funny. Yours is just poo. Punk. |
If you think he is so funny? Why don't you marry him? |
Cos he's my son. And there's a whole load of wrongness when a dad marries his son. You weird freakhead. |
Like father like son. <3 |
Poor father.
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The Borg_TSGK
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Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 2756 Location: Suffolk, England Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 21:42 Post subject:
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Another slow news day then
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Shimmy_TSGK
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Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 2444 Location: Dubai, 2 clicks away from Burj Khalifa Country:  Browser:  Age: 42
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 22:11 Post subject:
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Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Diet H2O_TSGK wrote: |
At least Breen's spam is funny. Yours is just poo. Punk. |
If you think he is so funny? Why don't you marry him? |
Cos he's my son. And there's a whole load of wrongness when a dad marries his son. You weird freakhead. |
Like father like son. <3 |
Poor father. |
Ditto! You guys are freakshows!
and Borg tis a slow news day indeed.
This was in the news thou....
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Killa/PPV

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 579 Country:  Browser:  Age: 35
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 04:05 Post subject:
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freakshow |
= Breen
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M-83 Frag

Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 208 Location: Italy Country:  Browser:  Age: 46
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:46 Post subject:
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Shimmy_TSGK
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Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 2444 Location: Dubai, 2 clicks away from Burj Khalifa Country:  Browser:  Age: 42
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 16:44 Post subject:
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Damnnn, those people must feel like milkshake,except the people sitting at the wings they get the least rotational induced vertical movement.
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Xmeagol
Incontinent beast

Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 3612 Location: Oh my god look behind you it's an evil combine advisor with a raging erection oh my god. Country:  Browser:  Age: 703
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 17:05 Post subject:
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Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone.
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Killa/PPV

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 579 Country:  Browser:  Age: 35
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 18:07 Post subject:
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Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand !
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Shimmy_TSGK
TSGK Member

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 2444 Location: Dubai, 2 clicks away from Burj Khalifa Country:  Browser:  Age: 42
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 19:33 Post subject:
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Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK
TSGK Member

Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 2756 Location: Suffolk, England Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 20:26 Post subject:
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Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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Killa/PPV

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 579 Country:  Browser:  Age: 35
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 20:46 Post subject:
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Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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Shimmy_TSGK
TSGK Member

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 2444 Location: Dubai, 2 clicks away from Burj Khalifa Country:  Browser:  Age: 42
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 21:18 Post subject:
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Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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Killa/PPV

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 579 Country:  Browser:  Age: 35
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 22:47 Post subject:
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Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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lol
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Xmeagol
Incontinent beast

Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 3612 Location: Oh my god look behind you it's an evil combine advisor with a raging erection oh my god. Country:  Browser:  Age: 703
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 22:49 Post subject:
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Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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lol |
o many boobs, so little time to suck
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Killa/PPV

Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 579 Country:  Browser:  Age: 35
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 22:50 Post subject:
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Xmeagol wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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lol |
o many boobs, so little time to suck |
To suck what ???
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Shimmy_TSGK
TSGK Member

Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 2444 Location: Dubai, 2 clicks away from Burj Khalifa Country:  Browser:  Age: 42
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 22:57 Post subject:
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Mega Spam Box wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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lol |
o many boobs, so little time to suck |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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The Borg_TSGK wrote: |
Shimmy_TSGK wrote: |
Killa/PPV wrote: |
Xmeagol wrote: |
Two worlds collide - rival nations,
Its a primitive clash - venting years of frustrations,
Bravely we hope against all hope - there is so much at stake.
Seems our freedoms up against the ropes.
Does the crowd understand?
Is a east versus west, or man against man,
Can any nation stand - alone.
*in the burning heart - just about to burst,
Theres a quest for answers, an unquenchable thirst,
In the darkest night - rising like a spire,
In the burning heart - the unmistakable fire.*
In the warriors code - theres no surrender,
Though his body says stop - his spirit cries - never!
Deep in our soul a quiet ember,
Knows its you against you, its the
Paradox that drives us on -
Its a battle of wills, in the heat of attack,
Its the passion that kills -
The victory is yours alone. |
Dont write something you dont understand ! |
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lol |
o many boobs, so little time to suck |
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yummmmmmmmmy
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