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TeamScorpion · Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 22:25 Post subject: Connection problem

Hi everybody,
I use a different connection than your, it's a new system (for me, in my countrie).
A link for more explain:

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wirelessinternet/g/bldef_wimax.htm

But I have a problem.
When i play in the TSGK's Servers, my ping is 110-120 ms high, my best ping in others Servers, is 50. Why the TSGK's Serveurs! Crying or Very sad

I don't know why, and i don't know if there is really a solution, so I need your help for me to reach a better latency if possible.

Thanks to them who will try to help me.

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 00:31 Post subject: Re: Connection problem

TeamScorpion · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 00:52 Post subject:

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:03 Post subject:

Here you go.

First, between the HOP #5 and #6 you have a difference of 74 ms in one shot, and secondary to reach London, UK you pass via NY, USA... the best part of it is that at the HOP #7 you'r at London and then you get rerouted to NY to finaly come back to london... Very bad route.
No wonder you get such a ping.
There is nothing to do execpt the change ISP with a one that own lot of peer connections.

Here is my route to the same server:

TeamScorpion · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:11 Post subject:

There is no solution?

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:15 Post subject:

TeamScorpion · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:19 Post subject:

I have acess to just one ISP...it's dead...

Thanks Osiris_TSGK.

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:23 Post subject:

TeamScorpion · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 02:50 Post subject:

And what can i do in this situation?

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 03:02 Post subject:

TeamScorpion · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 03:17 Post subject:

Ok. Thanks Wink

Freelancer · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 03:24 Post subject:

ye i thought your From USA ... But O_o this Connection is just WACK! Sad

Change ISP dude. Gut Luck ^^lol

[S-UK] Squidward · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 04:39 Post subject:

complain to your isp.... every day if you can, until they change your routing.... make a nuisince of yourself.... it can work very well

TeamScorpion · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 05:26 Post subject:

Ok, i begin monday Laughing

But it's difficult to change a routing?

[S-UK] Squidward · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 05:34 Post subject:

not too difficult if they really want to... call them, email them..... hel go knock on their door if they are local.... what I mean is if you make a nuisance of yourself, in a nice way of course... dont be nasty, as a paying customer they will either ignore you.. in which case you re no worse off, or they will sort it out, in ehich case, w00t!

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Diet H2O_TSGK · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 13:17 Post subject:

TeamScorpion · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 13:37 Post subject:

Thanks for the tips Wink

I try with an other IP?

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 15:21 Post subject:

Ghost Dog_TSGK · Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 00:19 Post subject:

TeamScorpion · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 21:00 Post subject:

With the others IP:

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers 195.122.134.115 avec un maximum de 30 sauts.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 31 ms 27 ms 33 ms 10.3.65.252
3 38 ms 43 ms 31 ms 87.238.146.129
4 36 ms 54 ms 32 ms rtr-th2-luce.regiespfs.net [87.238.144.6]
5 38 ms 29 ms 26 ms Gi4-0-262.par-gar-access-2.interoute.net [84.233
.130.57]
6 101 ms 106 ms 109 ms Gi13-0-0.par-gar-core-1.interoute.net [212.23.42
.9]
7 105 ms 103 ms 105 ms PO1-0.lon-wal-core-2.interoute.net [84.233.152.1
65]
8 101 ms 141 ms 113 ms PO6-0.nyc-002-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.43.
149]
9 107 ms 102 ms 108 ms PO3-0.nyc-002-inter-3.interoute.net [212.23.43.1
30]
10 103 ms 102 ms 113 ms ge-7-14.car2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.78.166.253]

11 102 ms 110 ms 107 ms vlan69.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.62]
12 111 ms 107 ms 114 ms ae-61-61.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.65]

13 110 ms 105 ms 110 ms ae-4.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.132.110]
14 128 ms 122 ms 134 ms ae-2.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.132.134]
15 121 ms 149 ms 128 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.133.85
]
16 124 ms 124 ms 127 ms ae-2.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.133.90]
17 116 ms 121 ms 125 ms ae-1-100.ebr1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.132.1
29]
18 138 ms 122 ms 126 ms ae-2.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.132.138]
19 125 ms 111 ms 119 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.68.118.
42]
20 120 ms 118 ms 126 ms 195.122.134.115

Itinéraire déterminé.

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers 213.19.131.193 avec un maximum de 30 sauts.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 40 ms 32 ms 30 ms 10.3.65.252
3 28 ms 27 ms 34 ms 87.238.146.129
4 44 ms 30 ms 31 ms rtr-th2-luce.regiespfs.net [87.238.144.6]
5 29 ms 30 ms 47 ms Gi4-0-262.par-gar-access-2.interoute.net [84.233
.130.57]
6 112 ms 109 ms 108 ms Gi13-0-0.par-gar-core-1.interoute.net [212.23.42
.9]
7 121 ms 113 ms 107 ms PO1-0.lon-wal-core-2.interoute.net [84.233.152.1
65]
8 106 ms 107 ms 122 ms PO6-0.nyc-002-access-1.interoute.net [212.23.43.
149]
9 115 ms 105 ms 106 ms PO3-0.nyc-002-inter-3.interoute.net [212.23.43.1
30]
10 101 ms 108 ms 101 ms ge-7-14.car2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.78.166.253]

11 115 ms 113 ms 110 ms vlan79.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.126]
12 107 ms 116 ms 263 ms ae-71-71.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.69]

13 107 ms 109 ms 120 ms ae-4.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.132.110]
14 125 ms 135 ms 182 ms ae-2.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.132.134]
15 127 ms 142 ms 110 ms ae-21-54.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.68.120.11
1]
16 135 ms 131 ms 110 ms 212.72.45.122
17 113 ms 117 ms 118 ms 213.19.131.193

Itinéraire déterminé.

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers fruits.et.legumes.tsgk.org [82.239.217.3]
avec un maximum de 30 sauts :

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 30 ms 32 ms 40 ms 10.3.65.252
3 35 ms 31 ms 43 ms 87.238.146.129
4 61 ms 30 ms 52 ms rtr-th2-luce.regiespfs.net [87.238.144.6]
5 30 ms 27 ms 28 ms Gi4-0-262.par-gar-access-2.interoute.net [84.233
.57]
6 30 ms 29 ms 39 ms Gi13-0-0.par-gar-core-1.interoute.net [212.23.42

7 30 ms 35 ms 36 ms PO2-0.par-001-inter-1.interoute.net [212.23.42.3

8 32 ms 32 ms 33 ms ProXad-aub.FreeIX.net [213.228.3.134]
9 34 ms 35 ms 40 ms aub-6k-1-po6.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.27.58.

10 35 ms 37 ms 39 ms th2-crs16-1-be1007.intf.routers.proxad.net [212.
0.137]
11 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
12 38 ms 44 ms 42 ms marseille-6k-1-v804.intf.routers.proxad.net [212
50.101]
13 62 ms 55 ms 52 ms montpellier-6k-1-v802.intf.routers.proxad.net [2
7.50.93]
14 48 ms 45 ms 87 ms lun34-1.dslg.proxad.net [213.228.12.39]
15 100 ms 51 ms 46 ms fruits.et.legumes.tsgk.org [82.239.217.3]
16 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
17 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
18 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
19 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
20 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
21 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
22 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
23 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
24 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
25 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
26 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
27 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
28 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
29 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.
30 * * * Délai d'attente de la demande dépassé.

itinéraire déterminé.

déterrmination de l'itinéraire vers 66.55.155.205 avec un maximum de 30 sauts.

<1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
27 ms 29 ms 47 ms 10.3.65.252
60 ms 298 ms 36 ms 87.238.146.129
85 ms 33 ms 93 ms rtr-th2-luce.regiespfs.net [87.238.144.6]
42 ms 35 ms 45 ms Gi4-0-262.par-gar-access-2.interoute.net [84.233
.57]
115 ms 42 ms 39 ms Gi13-0-0.par-gar-core-1.interoute.net [212.23.42

38 ms 34 ms 37 ms PO1-0.lon-wal-core-2.interoute.net [84.233.152.1

52 ms 46 ms 35 ms Gi0-0.lon-002-inter-2.interoute.net [84.233.152.

40 ms 37 ms 35 ms xe-0-3-0.cr1.lhr1.uk.nlayer.net [195.66.224.37]

111 ms 105 ms 103 ms xe-2-2-0.cr2.nyc3.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.9]
105 ms 108 ms 108 ms tge1-1.ar1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.157]
103 ms 178 ms 109 ms choopa.tge2-2.ar1.ewr1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.95.1

111 ms 114 ms 111 ms 0.te1-1.cr2.ewr2.choopa.net [64.237.32.66]
109 ms 110 ms 104 ms 66.55.155.205

itinéraire déterminé.

TeamScorpion · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 21:07 Post subject:

And with that, i can't stop the problem?

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 22:28 Post subject:

Your ISP routes all the traffic at the destination of Level 3 Network to NY, what ever UK, Germany or Amsterdam, everything is passing via NY.
It is pretty common, most of the ISP who don't mind doing a smart route just trow all the traffic to the biggest peer of a major Network, in your case, it is NY for Level 3, a shame, Level 3 is probably one of the largest intercontinental network of the world with many peers in europe including a very large one in Paris, there is nothing you can do, considering the complete lack of care of your ISP for routing even when peers are presents, they do have no excuse for not providing a clean route execpt to be too lazy to update the route table on their routers.
Who is that ISP?

TeamScorpion · Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 23:33 Post subject:

My ISP is Wizeo.
What is exactly the consequent of "update the route table on their routers" for my connection, a better ping?
How i can explain really the problem at my ISP?

Osiris_TSGK · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 01:33 Post subject:

Ghost Dog_TSGK · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 07:33 Post subject:

I <3 the current route & smart route pics xD xD

With my experience dealing with isp support those pictures may be the only way the phone operator understands xD

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Shimmy_TSGK · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 23:01 Post subject:

map

i thought it was cake Crying or Very sad

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Diet H2O_TSGK · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 01:42 Post subject: