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gtamike_TSGK · Last edited by gtamike_TSGK on Fri Dec 21, 2007 15:51; edited 1 time in total

Hi, I have a problem.

My PC restarts only on steam games at the loading screen (most of the time)

This all started when I got my new graphic's card it's name is
"ATI Sapphire HD 2600 PRO 512mb" (3 weeks ago)

I keep getting a stop error when I start up a game about 2 times a day and then my pc restarts.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled the graphic's card drivers about 4 times now and still the same, also there's no updates for this card and "Catalyst Control Center" don't work and I have net 2 from MS.

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CPU: Intel P4 2.80 Ghz
RAM: 512 Mb
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP
DirectX Version 9.0c (november)
Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor
Refresh Rate: 85 Hz
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After my pc restarted I got this error

I clicked don't send and went on more information about error.

C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp\WERf7cb.dir00\Mini120907-02.dmp
C:\DOCUME~1\Owner\LOCALS~1\Temp\WERf7cb.dir00\sysdata.xml

(dmp file in Attachment)
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Here's 2 pictures of the errors

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9379/30304820iu8.jpg

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4096/63323120jc5.jpg
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Before my pc restarted I got a blue screen that said this

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Problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

The problem seems to be caused by the following file :win32k.sys
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

If this is the first time you’ve seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:

Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you might need.

If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options suck as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe mode to remove or disable components, restart you computer, press F8 to select Advanced start up options, and then select safe mode.

Technical information:

*** STOP: 0X00000050 (0XE573F404, 0X00000000, Date stamp 45F013F6

*** win32k.sys - Address BF89412B base at BF800000, Datestamp 45F013F6

Beginning dump of physical memory physical memory dump complete. Contact your system administrator or technical support group for further assistance.
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I need help. Sad

Balle_TSGK · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 22:10 Post subject:

A search on Microsoft TechNet for PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA gave this: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/w2000Msgs/6093.mspx?mfr=true

Don't know if it helps, but...

gtamike_TSGK · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 22:22 Post subject:

Xmeagol · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 23:10 Post subject:

try reinstalling steam, backup gcf's

[S-UK] Squidward · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 23:26 Post subject:

Mike I tried foru or five times before catalyst control centre installed correctly, the only other thing.... maybe older drivers or older version of directx?

Question

Freelancer · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 23:28 Post subject:

Ummm...Steam and Valve Work with ATI and .....ATI is the one that has MOST problems with Steam?Valve Games Laughing

makes methink Razz

Controllerboy_TSGK · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 23:35 Post subject:

Man I so hate I can't help you, it's ubersucky when you can't play I'm happy i'm lucky enough to be out of that stage (hope forever lol). I'll search and ask around a bit.

gtamike_TSGK · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 23:50 Post subject:

Ok this is what im going to do.

Verify integrity of game cache files from steam
(maybe will not do anything) Embarassed

Download a updated driver from the sapphre site (some new out)
(ATI site had no updates) Shocked

Im getting a 1gb of ram off ebay
(on the g card box says 512mb of ram or 1gb more may help) Rolling Eyes

Still problems i'll send a message to sapphre help and support and steam... Surprised

Then I give up Mad

maeggs · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 02:12 Post subject:

following points are a good way too:

1st punsh the ati card out of your pc with a baseball bat (be carefull dont hit other devices)
2nd buy a axe and try to fix the card with it (you may need a wodden brick)
3rd if the fix wont work feed the pieces to your dog (not all in one time maybe apportion it to few meals)
4rd kill the dog

Lawitz · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 03:19 Post subject:

5th bury the dog in the front yard of the nvidia development center.

The Borg_TSGK · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 09:58 Post subject:

4a Don't use your dog, but the one down the road that barks all the time

gtamike_TSGK · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:28 Post subject:

Xmeagol · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 15:19 Post subject:

maeggs · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 18:03 Post subject:

to kill the dog is humane because he runs with an ati card and will die after 2 month with great torments (but he wont run anyway)

Xmeagol · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 18:54 Post subject:

Zog Ecosse · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 21:42 Post subject:

Oh dear

Those symptoms sound all too familiar. Exactly the same, just before my ATI card self destructed. (One month after the warranty expired.)
One of the memory chips was iffy so the problem was not always obvious until you started to use a lot of graphics memory.
Suggest you try a graphics stress test and see what happens.

Zog

gtamike_TSGK · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 23:27 Post subject:

I've done a graphics stress test with Source SDK Base about 3 weeks ago FPS was 60 if I remember right. Wink

Old card was about 30 fps. Laughing

I installed the new drivers from sapphire but that didn't do alot Confused

apart from Catalyst Control Center now works.

I am now going to write to sapphire. Evil or Very Mad

Zog Ecosse · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 04:05 Post subject:

Saphire was where my card came form.

Lost the fan first and despite the abortive attempt to try the on line warranty when it started going wrong................

You get what you pay for.

The nvidia card I have now has not missed a beat. I have a thermal sensor on chip with a low set alarm temperature.

I will not say which make is better, only nvidia have not let me down so far.

Also, the dog eats my socks Shocked

not computer bits. he knows better.

serious subject..... am struggling for a funny

Zog

The Borg_TSGK · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:57 Post subject:

Freelancer · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 13:21 Post subject:

Also, the dog eats my socks Shocked not computer bits. he knows better.
zog...Lol xD your Dog Rocks! Razz

He /she eats HOmework? i need some help xD[/quote]

[B§] Furianer · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 16:20 Post subject:

too many manufacturers, too many different versions of cards... not all will work well together. Sell the card or bring back to the store if possible, buy a new one. Nvidia 7800 with agp, cheap to get. I dont know, if the ATI 2600 agp has dx10, but with 512MB ram, i think, you dont installed vista. So u dont need dx10. I use Nvidia, never had problems. But some friends also not with ATI. Both are good, but your own components in PC should work well together, at the moment it seems not like...
otherwis i know a good site with gamerdrivers for graphiccards. Use this link:
http://www.tweakforce.com
gl

gtamike_TSGK · Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 20:38 Post subject:

Thanks i'll give that a try if no luck then i'll get a Nvidia card.

DeezNut$ · Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 132 Country: Browser:

I bought TF2 and only, ONLY when I reinstalled the original ATI drivers that shipped (I upgraded the drivers months back via STEAM's recommendation) did I have the ability to load the game and play...
Sorry to hear about the issues...It's a shame we all either experience this from time to time considering the time, money and love of the games expended.

Good luck!

DN

gtamike_TSGK · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 15:11 Post subject:

It looks like just about everyone had the same problem with this card and steam/pc restart. Shocked

I fixed the problem by removing the card and killing it. Twisted Evil

Sapphire cards suck. Laughing

maeggs · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 15:14 Post subject:

could you save the dog? Laughing

StonedCabbage · Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 19:33 Post subject:

i had exactly the same blue screen of death 2 days ago but with my soundcard, i now reverted to my old sound card from like 1986, works though Very Happy

Freelancer · Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 02:57 Post subject:

no WAY ~~!~~ Stoned has Pwnd ValVe Tbh Cool

Grats ^^

The Borg_TSGK · Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:01 Post subject:

ArcAne Rush · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 19:52 Post subject:

ATI are not bad, it is the Manufacturers fault. Saphire just look like they have gone from bad to worse. but Power Colour and HIGHTECH produce qaulity ATI cards still.

[S-UK] Squidward · Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 13:02 Post subject: