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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 00:28    Post subject:  

[DOH] Mick wrote:
I am sure that most of the inmates on death row are really nice blokes Rolling Eyes
most of the time they are seriously laughing at people's reaction to the things they say Wink
Get a life just because in your sick mind you think you are being funny does not make it OK to be rude to others Mad .


You're right. It certainly wasn't my intention to justify any behavior. I was just presenting a different perspective. If you don't like the behavior even in that light, that's ok too. I am perfectly able and willing to abide by any rules I am aware of. Embarassed
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Annoying people just to get an advantage / laugh? Must be 10 year old. Tosser. Ah don't mind me, I don't mean 99% of what I say, I'm just unwinding.


heh you should read The Art of War and "Winning Ugly". The authors were much older than 10. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 00:47    Post subject:  

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I am perfectly able and willing to abide by any rules I am aware of

Just because there is not a list of rules to read before you play it does not mean there are no rules ... if I came to your house and walked in sat down watched TV and drank your beer you would not be a happy man and would for sure call the police Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 00:55    Post subject:  

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I get that you dont really mean it but, do you really enjoy watching people get frustrated ?

If so why, are u a Sadist too?


Hmm. I don't think I enjoy just frustrating people. Most of the things I've done have been done to target people who have a specific trait. As I mentioned earlier, the comment "I'm probably the best there is" wouldn't bother you at all unless you were someone who thinks you're pretty good and are somewhat irritated that you are losing. If you're just there having fun, you would probably just attribute that comment to some crackpot on the internet.lol Actually I don't think what I'm talking about is so unusual. There have been situation comedies on television that made a living by picking on a particular trait of a character. People seem to get lots of laughs at watching someone who takes themselves too seriously get railed a bit.


You are right. Situation comedies and sketches are just like that.

I was just getting a bit worried that you maybe sat in your chair and rocked and cackled like that guy in inspector gadget.
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I am perfectly able and willing to abide by any rules I am aware of

Just because there is not a list of rules to read before you play it does not mean there are no rules ... if I came to your house and walked in sat down watched TV and drank your beer you would not be a happy man and would for sure call the police Rolling Eyes


Hmm I didn't mean that the way it sounded. I just meant that since I was particpating in this thread that I would listen to any criticism from server admins and adjust accordingly.

BTW breaking into my house is a rule that actually is written down somewhere. Otherwise the police would never come if I called! Laughing

And I might not mind anyway so long as you don't fart on my couch.
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Laughing It was a poor example all I was trying to say is you don't have to have rules to be nice to others .
Maybe if you had not been muted you could have explained this to the players you were having a laugh with or at Wink
I can see you are a good player from your stats and have put a lot of time into the TSGK servers so I hope you can carry on playing on them .

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 14:57    Post subject:  

you can go ahed and swear everything you want, this is a game, not a church
do whatever you want, play what maps you want and play the guns you want to, if anyone doesnt like your attitude tell them to just fuck off!

on the hand, has anyone noticed that 80% of muted players you meet, are good players? they are cocky, they are jerks, and deep inside they are stupid noobs

those are the ones i hate the most, because for some reason i get along with those muted.. guys that harrass people (in kissmyaxe's case)

also, one thing that i really hate, is when people see a really good player, the player, according to the "gaming society" needs to be mature, or "old" or anything, i love to see those not-so-mature pro gamers kicking some friends of mine's asses and they get really pissed and say "grow up". or something. its funny.

Freedom is a nice thing, but freedom is more limited in real life, in-game you can have unlimited freedom do what you want, in servers like TSGK, they (the admins) limit the freedom of a player, so when the freedom of a player starts disrupting the freedom of other players, the disrupting player will get kicked/muted/banned/slammed etc.

That is wrong, i think we should all accept how other people are, if they like to swear at other people, that is fine, why? because there's no one that could get offended online, otherwise they would be "weak", and if there are underage people that play the game.. well (this is were i love ESRB/PAL ratings) the kids shouldnt be playing in the first place because the game is recommended to over +18, so only when you're over 18, you have reasons to whine about, no matter how mature you are.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 15:38    Post subject:  

*After reading a non-spam post from Breen - Diet faints*

I tend to agree more with your post Breen than disagree.

Everyone does have freedom but so do other players , admins and server owners. In fact, in some ways players have more freedom... They can choose how to behave including whether or not to abuse people.

Server owners and admins don't. There are VERY strict codes of conduct (on most servers) re admin rights. And if any TSGK member behaved even a fraction as badly as the abusive players then they would not be tolerated. We certainly don't expect anything more of guests than we do of ourselves.

However, I do think that some players should be a bit more thick skinned. The most effective way to deal with abuse on a server is to leave it - or completely take the piss out of them.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 15:38    Post subject:  

DrBreen wrote:
you can go ahed and swear everything you want, this is a game, not a church
do whatever you want, play what maps you want and play the guns you want to, if anyone doesnt like your attitude tell them to just fuck off!

on the hand, has anyone noticed that 80% of muted players you meet, are good players? they are cocky, they are jerks, and deep inside they are stupid noobs

those are the ones i hate the most, because for some reason i get along with those muted.. guys that harrass people (in kissmyaxe's case)

also, one thing that i really hate, is when people see a really good player, the player, according to the "gaming society" needs to be mature, or "old" or anything, i love to see those not-so-mature pro gamers kicking some friends of mine's asses and they get really pissed and say "grow up". or something. its funny.

Freedom is a nice thing, but freedom is more limited in real life, in-game you can have unlimited freedom do what you want, in servers like TSGK, they (the admins) limit the freedom of a player, so when the freedom of a player starts disrupting the freedom of other players, the disrupting player will get kicked/muted/banned/slammed etc.

That is wrong, i think we should all accept how other people are, if they like to swear at other people, that is fine, why? because there's no one that could get offended online, otherwise they would be "weak", and if there are underage people that play the game.. well (this is were i love ESRB/PAL ratings) the kids shouldnt be playing in the first place because the game is recommended to over +18, so only when you're over 18, you have reasons to whine about, no matter how mature you are.


I understand where you want to go to and I am not going to say I disagree with you. The fact is that online, it's hard to display your emotions. In my opinion you don't have to be "grown up" or whatever, but there are people and there are a lot of people that take insults serious. Especially online because as I said you can't express sarcasm or irony easily. Espeially in a game where you have to type what you want to say in four seconds because otherwise you're dead. Just because a player gets offended by insults (why else are there insults than to offend people ?) I don't reckon that player "Weak" or whatever you think of that player. I disagree also with your opinion there should be unlimited freedom on the internet, hell, I don't want my little sister to find vaginas when she searches "kitty" on google or clicks on a wrong link trying to find cartoonnetwork.com. And that muted people are mostly the friendliest, well why would they be ? Because they've learnt their lesson offcourse. If they ever want to be unmuted (like michael jackson who showed a great change of attitude) they will not be rude again.

just my opinion, I respect your but partly disagree.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 15:56    Post subject:  

DrBreen wrote:
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you can go ahed and swear everything you want, this is a game, not a church
do whatever you want, play what maps you want and play the guns you want to, if anyone doesnt like your attitude tell them to just fuck off!

on the hand, has anyone noticed that 80% of muted players you meet, are good players? they are cocky, they are jerks, and deep inside they are stupid noobs

those are the ones i hate the most, because for some reason i get along with those muted.. guys that harrass people (in kissmyaxe's case)

also, one thing that i really hate, is when people see a really good player, the player, according to the "gaming society" needs to be mature, or "old" or anything, i love to see those not-so-mature pro gamers kicking some friends of mine's asses and they get really pissed and say "grow up". or something. its funny.

Freedom is a nice thing, but freedom is more limited in real life, in-game you can have unlimited freedom do what you want, in servers like TSGK, they (the admins) limit the freedom of a player, so when the freedom of a player starts disrupting the freedom of other players, the disrupting player will get kicked/muted/banned/slammed etc.

That is wrong, i think we should all accept how other people are, if they like to swear at other people, that is fine, why? because there's no one that could get offended online, otherwise they would be "weak", and if there are underage people that play the game.. well (this is were i love ESRB/PAL ratings) the kids shouldnt be playing in the first place because the game is recommended to over +18, so only when you're over 18, you have reasons to whine about, no matter how mature you are.


I understand that anyone can play the game how ever they like and if someone wants to use bad words as long as they are not meant to offend others and are in good fun I have no problem with it.
The problem comes with where do you draw the line everyone has a different level of acceptable behavior so to be fare to all users on TSGK maybe there should be a motd screen with a link to the rules .

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 16:00    Post subject:  

i didnt meant that much freedom cboy!

and sure there are rules (unfourtainly) but they are too strict, and i understand lots of people feel claustrophobic by it, because of mute and point system, one cannot have fun the way he wants, therefor leaves the server

that is some people tend to leave online pc gaming and go play on xbox live, or something
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 16:01    Post subject:  

DrBreen wrote:
i didnt meant that much freedom cboy!

and sure there are rules (unfourtainly) but they are too strict, and i understand lots of people feel claustrophobic by it, because of mute and point system, one cannot have fun the way he wants, therefor leaves the server

that is some people tend to leave online pc gaming and go play on xbox live, or something



bottom line: rules suck, unfourtainly they are there, and i (agaisnt my will) accept them.

Other people do not

EDIT: because thats how people are, you cant force people to change, if someone tends to be gay, let thee be gay, if someone likes child porn, he should be arrested, but he will probably be a pedophile his whole life because Thats just how people are
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 16:35    Post subject:  

Everyone have the freedom to do better if they think they are able.
If not, then while you critic (wind), others are working (concrete).

By the way it wouldn't come to my mind to swear at my father (or who ever i will never swear at) while playing on a server with him, just because while on the server there is no "real-life" rules, ok whatever, next time i will be mad at someone i'm supposed to not swear at i will just invite him to a game on the server then i may have the opportunity the swear as much i want, it is not "real-life" you know, so no worry it should be ok, people doesn't deserve the respect while being online, i have learn something new here.

You can swear, behind your computer, if some frustration need to get out, and how you want, as loud you want, the word that you want.
But if you really need to share this with others players, then maybe you break this freedom you are so worry about, by imposing your own wish.
Therefor you couldn't keep defending this freedom you don't even respect.

You can swear at TSGK, we don't even censure it, if you are a reasonable person all will be fine, if you'r not reasonable then that is your matter.

And the case "i was swearing with my friends", use teamspeak or PM them via Steam, people on a public server doesn't have to support the special fun you have with your friends.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 17:21    Post subject:  

Breen,your Points were CORRECT,but you talk about point of view that open to you and your side of the conflict. but not all people can take a joke like "Go fuck your dog" or something similar.It mAy offend people.....And "F--k the pope" Name is religicly incorretc as for some people this may be offensive aswell.Noone Stops you from swearing,but you have to think before saying something to people you may not know....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 17:42    Post subject:  

I also disagree slightly with you Breen. Yes you can do whatever you want in your own house.
This is not his house, nor mine, it is TSGK's.
As Diet said they Don't expect any more of their guests than of their members.
I also agree with Diet that some people need a thicker skin
and maybe the Aimer should not have been included in my original post.

As i said before, I enjoy playing here because of the people.
Most other Members and guests probably would agree.
The purpose for the post was to bring attention to someone who should be banned (r u still here c***),
and someone (the Aimer) who might be ruining the experience for more than he is helping on TSGK servers.

Aimer you said you would not intentionally drive anyone away,
and if that is truly the case I will take you at your word.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 17:52    Post subject:  

N U T Z wrote:
I also agree with Diet that some people need a thicker skin
and maybe the Aimer should not have been included in my original post.

He has been repoted many time:

http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?t=906
http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?p=8440#8440
http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?t=1429

He is also the proud author of this discussion:
http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?p=32501#32501

Just the name that has changed, and there are smileys on this one, which tend to give a sweet version of it, for the pleasur of all.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 18:00    Post subject:  

Osiris_TSGK wrote:


Just the name that has changed, and there are smileys on this one, which tend to give a sweet version of it, for the pleasur of all.


Thank you very much. VERY enlightening. Smile (inserted for fluff value)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 18:35    Post subject:  

DrBreen wrote:
you can go ahed and swear everything you want, this is a game, not a church
do whatever you want, play what maps you want and play the guns you want to, if anyone doesnt like your attitude tell them to just fuck off!

on the hand, has anyone noticed that 80% of muted players you meet, are good players? they are cocky, they are jerks, and deep inside they are stupid noobs

those are the ones i hate the most, because for some reason i get along with those muted.. guys that harrass people (in kissmyaxe's case)

also, one thing that i really hate, is when people see a really good player, the player, according to the "gaming society" needs to be mature, or "old" or anything, i love to see those not-so-mature pro gamers kicking some friends of mine's asses and they get really pissed and say "grow up". or something. its funny.

Freedom is a nice thing, but freedom is more limited in real life, in-game you can have unlimited freedom do what you want, in servers like TSGK, they (the admins) limit the freedom of a player, so when the freedom of a player starts disrupting the freedom of other players, the disrupting player will get kicked/muted/banned/slammed etc.

That is wrong, i think we should all accept how other people are, if they like to swear at other people, that is fine, why? because there's no one that could get offended online, otherwise they would be "weak", and if there are underage people that play the game.. well (this is were i love ESRB/PAL ratings) the kids shouldnt be playing in the first place because the game is recommended to over +18, so only when you're over 18, you have reasons to whine about, no matter how mature you are.


Why do you want to join us Breen, you don't seem to have the same values as us?

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bottom line: rules suck, unfourtainly they are there, and i (agaisnt my will) accept them.



If you don't likes rules etc, why this post
http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?p=34199#34199

Your posts show a level of maturity far below your posted age. Life with out rules would be leathal, games with out any rules would be pointless. I just don't understand you Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 18:36    Post subject:  

N U T Z wrote:
I also disagree slightly with you Breen. Yes you can do whatever you want in your own house.
This is not his house, nor mine, it is TSGK's.

This is absolutely correct and breen supported it in his post without knowing.
DrBreen wrote:
you can go ahed and swear everything you want, this is a game, not a church
do whatever you want, play what maps you want and play the guns you want to, if anyone doesnt like your attitude tell them to just fuck off!

this is right and its exactly what osiris as server owner? is doin he tell ppl to fuck off and bann them if they dont keep to his rules. Hes the onlyone who can make rules on his servers if you dont like that fuck off.. go play on another server. I can buy a server and set up rules i want thats the point and players who decide to play on my server accept my rules. Players have no freedom on the servers they have the freedom of choice nothing more.
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I just don't understand you

Thats just the generationgap Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 18:48    Post subject:  

Sniperborg wrote:
DrBreen wrote:
you can go ahed and swear everything you want, this is a game, not a church
do whatever you want, play what maps you want and play the guns you want to, if anyone doesnt like your attitude tell them to just fuck off!

on the hand, has anyone noticed that 80% of muted players you meet, are good players? they are cocky, they are jerks, and deep inside they are stupid noobs

those are the ones i hate the most, because for some reason i get along with those muted.. guys that harrass people (in kissmyaxe's case)

also, one thing that i really hate, is when people see a really good player, the player, according to the "gaming society" needs to be mature, or "old" or anything, i love to see those not-so-mature pro gamers kicking some friends of mine's asses and they get really pissed and say "grow up". or something. its funny.

Freedom is a nice thing, but freedom is more limited in real life, in-game you can have unlimited freedom do what you want, in servers like TSGK, they (the admins) limit the freedom of a player, so when the freedom of a player starts disrupting the freedom of other players, the disrupting player will get kicked/muted/banned/slammed etc.

That is wrong, i think we should all accept how other people are, if they like to swear at other people, that is fine, why? because there's no one that could get offended online, otherwise they would be "weak", and if there are underage people that play the game.. well (this is were i love ESRB/PAL ratings) the kids shouldnt be playing in the first place because the game is recommended to over +18, so only when you're over 18, you have reasons to whine about, no matter how mature you are.


Why do you want to join us Breen, you don't seem to have the same values as us?

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bottom line: rules suck, unfourtainly they are there, and i (agaisnt my will) accept them.



If you don't likes rules etc, why this post
http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?p=34199#34199

Your posts show a level of maturity far below your posted age. Life with out rules would be leathal, games with out any rules would be pointless. I just don't understand you Sad


just because i accept them, doesnt mean i like them
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 00:42    Post subject:  

Breen you know better,

You obey the rules or you allow chaos to breed,

You say people under 18 shouldn't be playing this game.............that in itself is a rule............but what if your parents stopped you from playing 18+ games??????????

I was always allowed to play mature games at young age why should this younger generation not be allowed to?

Let's get serious here peoples ;p
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 02:01    Post subject:  

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Breen you know better,

You obey the rules or you allow chaos to breed,

You say people under 18 shouldn't be playing this game.............that in itself is a rule............but what if your parents stopped you from playing 18+ games??????????

I was always allowed to play mature games at young age why should this younger generation not be allowed to?

Let's get serious here peoples ;p


lol i had GTA : Vice City when i was like 9 or 10 xD

no wonder im messed up in da head

no but seriously, i agree with ghost dog. Parents always say things like "it'll teach you bad things" but how many people actually sit down , play DM, then go on a rampage next door? that just doesnt happen (unless that guy is plasmo o_O) usually those guys snap from something else. Video games would in fact help you get rage off in a fantasy world where it is OK and not on people. I believe video games are a good way to get out stress, before something bad happens. Sometimes you need to fly a tank around and blow SH*T up you know? A good way to deal with stress that isnt illegal. If you tried it in the real world 2 things would happen (both bad) :

1) jail time ^^
2) your tank wouldnt fly Exclamation

good luck comprehending all my mindless jibber jabber Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 09:00    Post subject:  

Some players use taunting as a tactic. Personally, I would never do that and I haven't even ever called anybody a noob. And why should I? We have all been noobs and compared to certain others I still am... Laughing

And since the main reason for playing is to have fun, it also means to contribute to the fun for the other players too. In my opinion taunting is not compatible with that... (For a TSGK member it is actually a recommendation/obligation: "- To be a fun player" and we should: "- Play for the fun")

There are many reasons for a taunter to use such a tactic though. A few of these could be:
- If you get frustrated and/or provoked by his taunting, you tend to make mistakes in the game and he might get another kill.
- While you reply to the taunts, his score probably increases.
- If he manages to drive some of the good players off the server, he is left with less skilled players.

To most people it is very annoying and I usually just ignore it. I'm not saying that these common responses to taunting are wrong or irrational, I'm just saying that if you get upset by it, he has gained exactly what he wanted and he owns you... - That's the tactic Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 13:16    Post subject:  

i agree with Bacon and Ghost here,BUT!
My old classmate played postal all the time...now he has been to the Psychotric hospital( i duno how to say it sorry) and at home he trasheed his Room with a Hatchet and on the walls he drawed an anarchy with Sour and shavin cream! Shocked WTf is that lol

But look at me Razz Im not Violent at all Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 14:49    Post subject:  

bahhhh, i still think rules suck, everyone hates rules, but one thing that i havent made clear: I ACCEPT THEM; SO DO MANY but that doesnt i like them
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 15:59    Post subject:  

Irepeat. if you don't likes rules etc, why this post
http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?p=34199#34199

Is not cheating, breaking rules Question

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 00:54    Post subject:  

Freelancer wrote:




did somebody steal my smiley? Razz




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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 02:46    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 13:01    Post subject:  

Sniperborg wrote:
Irepeat. if you don't likes rules etc, why this post
http://forum.tsgk.com/viewtopic.php?p=34199#34199

Is not cheating, breaking rules Question


i got hijacked!

poor crysis
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