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LukeGT421

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 20:16    Post subject:  cheater  

http://hl2mp.tsgk.com/index.php?mode=playerinfo&player=93640

i have a demo, where can i upload it?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 20:59    Post subject:  

I would just upload it in this thread, or if you're like me and sometimes forums refuse to upload your demos, then just host it and pop the link in here.

Thanks man.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 21:04    Post subject:  

well i sent the demo to osiris, not sure how i would go about uploading a demo to the thread?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 21:18    Post subject:  

LukeGT421 wrote:
well i sent the demo to osiris, not sure how i would go about uploading a demo to the thread?

Use "Add an Attachment" option when posting a new message.
if the .dem is too large, you can zip or rar it.

Browse for the file then clic Add Attachement (wait a little the time that the file is uploaded) and then Submit the post.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 22:09    Post subject:  

i must be missing something, because i can only upload demos in pm's. i don't even see the option available when posting in the forums :O
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 22:16    Post subject:  

It should be just above the preview and submit buttons
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 22:17    Post subject:  

If your browser isn't showing it then you can pm the demo to me I'll put it on.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 22:20    Post subject:  

yeah.. i don't have that option. possibly reserved for tsgk only? anyways, i just pm'ed you the demo ghost.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 23:00    Post subject:  

LukeGT421 wrote:
i must be missing something, because i can only upload demos in pm's. i don't even see the option available when posting in the forums :O

Fixed.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 23:39    Post subject:  

ah there we go Very Happy thanks osiris
07-10-05-widow.dem
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:47    Post subject:  

Just watched the demo and did not see him cheat once . Confused
If he was cheating making a demo that shows him cheating
would be a good idea Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:02    Post subject:  

I have to agree that their are some weirds shots, like the one with AR2 or the other with the .357 inside the bunker from the outdor.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 14:00    Post subject:  

If that player is cheating, then this demo has no proof of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 21:22    Post subject:  

Shocked Are you guys watching the same demo??? Well the most obvious spot is at tick 3400.. He is cooking a grenade for the guy going up to the charger when suddenly snaps to a different player's head THROUGH THE FLOOR!! Watch the demo at 20% speed, then tell me he's not aimbotting.....................................
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 21:30    Post subject:  

make sure you have mat_wireframe 2 on. ALSO 4400-5600 he's following this guy THROUGH A WALL!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 22:21    Post subject:  

Its suspicious....but not that much of a Script/HAx is involved i tihnk.
MAx its a homemade slopy WAllhax with a touch of amibot....but aimbot isnt active i think...so a SLOPPY Wallhax....
And about the mouse bob its jsut his mouse being on a reflective surface.
It happens to ppl Smile
I say,do a better demo dude and then we will see ^^

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 22:26    Post subject:  

with that mat_wireframe 2 on, you can see that the nade he wants to throw at player 1 in the air, all of a sudden is directed directly to the head of a player he can not or barely see.

Also you can see he is following people through the bunker walls.

Another thing is the guy's chat history

http://hl2mp.tsgk.com/index.php?mode=playerinfo&player=93640

I agree with freelancer_TSGK that evidence of wall hacking is more obvious than that of aim botting, but I am aware that 100 % proof is required to justify a ban.

My 2 cents.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 22:52    Post subject:  

LukeGT421 wrote:
make sure you have mat_wireframe 2 on. ALSO 4400-5600 he's following this guy THROUGH A WALL!!!

He has many opportunities to follow player through the wall, and he did it only 4400-5600, 1 time isn't enough to considere this as a wallhack.

I, for example know _tsgk_v8 very well and i can easily predict a player mouvement, inside as outside the bunker, this would make me a potential cheater then, no.

If this player would have follow other players through wall 10 times over 10 then there would be an obvious evidence of cheating, in this case this happend 1/10.

Still see no proof of cheating even with mat_wireframe 2.
This is a sv_pure server, therefor wallhacking is not possible, and even if this player could pass the sv_pure protection (which i doubt) this demo doesn't show absolutly no wallhack proof, neither aimbot considering he didn't do a single headshot with his .357 in that demo.

1. This player doesn't cheat.
2. This player cheats but know he was spectated so he didn't cheated that time.
3. This player cheats but that demo doesn't show anything that would proof it at the time the demo was made.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 23:03    Post subject:  

I'm sorry for posting, I will not bother TSGK again.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 23:09    Post subject:  

Don't be like that TSGK takes cheats very seriously but they need more evidence than you have given Exclamation
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 23:21    Post subject:  

I cannot add anything to whether this guy is cheating or not but thank you for submitting the demo anyway. We do take cheaters seriously and upon having irrefutable evidence they would be dealt with appropriately. Please do not hesitate to alert us of suspected hackers because of this incident not being proven. Thanks LukeGT421 Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 23:46    Post subject:  

Trying to grab barrels through walls, missing shots and the mouse snapping onto dead player or players who he was not fighting with through walls. Constantly reacting to exactly where a players is, you can hear but not that exact. Fire up a demo of yourself, and play a normal game then watch it again and see if you accidentally do some of the silly junk this guy does. Some people can be difficult to tell but there is no way if you watch this carefully and pay attention to the sounds and his mouse movement you cannot see this guy is blatantly hacking.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 23:51    Post subject:  

There is no need of calling your clanmates to claim the case.
You can still argu as much you want and call more of them, we told you that the demo is not recevable for a ban.
If he is cheating, there will be no need to be a Sherlock Holmes of demo or whatever.
If it is obvious we ban, if not we don't ban.
Nothing else to add there, accept if a better demo is posted, then we will be happy to review it and procced to a global ban if needed.
Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 02:04    Post subject:  

My previous post was clear.
But sound like the children love to mess arround.
The post of another one of your clanmate "n!ck" (freshly registered for the happy event) has been deleted since he isn't able to understand the purpose of this topic.
We don't handle such childish behavior on this forum, this thread is now closed.
We don't care who is right or not, we care about a proper demo to handle the case correctly, that's it.
Anyway, thanks for your report.

We will leave the case to VAC.
At least he should be automuted soon, considering his chatting habits.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 03:55    Post subject:  

Finaly, LukeGT421 managed to provide a real no doubt cheating proof demo (a second one), were we can clearly see the aimbot in action fully effectiv.
And that all we wanted to see.
This case is now closed, player banned.

Aimbot User.
STEAM_0:0:10746101

Thanks.

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