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The Borg_TSGK
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Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 2756 Location: Suffolk, England Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 08:26 Post subject:
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I’ve got a bit of a dilemma with my application to join. I don’t want this in my application to join thread as it would semm like I’m arguing with Capt Pikpik, which is not my intention at all, I’m merely asking what you would do.
When I first applied to join TSGK I mainly played on the council maps and towards the end of each session i usually was either 1st or 2nd and had got a kpd of about 1.8. Having been advised to play the killbox maps I have been practising hard on these and my kpd is now down to 1.2. As of late I usually end in the top 3rd but my kills to deaths is either about even or slightly more deaths.
My dilemma is that I like to play when there are good players on, so I am always learning and my game play seems to get better. But to raise my kpd I need to play when there’s newbie’s about, but then my game play gets worse. So do I play many sessions with newbie’s to get a good kpd and when I face Capt. Pikpik my game play has suffered or keep playing when there’s good players about and take for ever to even get a tryout.
This is not a complaint or argument about the joining process, I just want someone else’s perspective.
One other thing I’m playing [Agc] AngryDragon on the KC’s 1v1 league tonight, any tips on his weakness. Playing Domebox_tsgk and mine is killbox V8
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Kevlar
Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 31 Location: Shropshire England Country: 
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:19 Post subject:
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Your KPD might also be suffering because your gameplay is changing, by that I mean probably before you were trying to join TSGK you would use any weapon available. Also you are probably getting to pre occupied with stats, this will also have a down side effect. Best advice I can give you is just go out and play your natural game and have fun, if your having fun then your game will improve.
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Xmeagol
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Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 3612 Location: Oh my god look behind you it's an evil combine advisor with a raging erection oh my god. Country:  Browser:  Age: 703
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 13:19 Post subject:
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before i bought my gfx card (used to be a GeForce 2) i had around 1.10 kpd and slightly lower fps, when i bought the GF6200 on christmas, i started lagging less and killing more, next had kpd to 1.20 and its 1.64 and still rising !
Hardware helps! (So does training hard )
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DogSoldier
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Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 80 Location: North Carolina, USA Country:  Age: 51
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 16:20 Post subject:
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My KPD did the same thing when I started changing my gameplay. It took me over a month to raise it up to 1.3, mostly because I had had sooo many kills that when I was finally consistently getting a 7-day 1.5, it just took forever for it to average the overall stat to 1.3.
Just play hard and have fun. You will see improvement as you learn. If you start to target newbs just to raise your kpd, then you miss the point of having a 1.3 kpd, which is that you are a better player and can hold your own on a server with good players.
It warms the cockles of my heart when a session ends with three or four TSGK members all filling the top slots. You don't want to be in a position where you feel like you are not up to speed with everyone else. Take your time and you'll get there with hard work and patience.
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Xmeagol
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Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 3612 Location: Oh my god look behind you it's an evil combine advisor with a raging erection oh my god. Country:  Browser:  Age: 703
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 17:26 Post subject:
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lol , dog soldier how long do you game? (CS and HL only)
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maeggs

Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 274 Location: Dresden Germany Country:  Browser:  Age: 39
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 19:14 Post subject:
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i played with angry dragon today in a normal dm match..
and i have to say that i dont saw any weapon specialism i think hes middling
at all weapons
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[DOH] Half Life Half Bisc
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Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 256 Location: Two Chevrons Apart Country: 
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 23:01 Post subject:
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AngryDragon has a weakness for strawberry bonbons - buy him a bag before you start and he might let you kill him once.
Apart from that he will batter you.
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The Borg_TSGK
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Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 2756 Location: Suffolk, England Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 08:46 Post subject:
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He did as your post came in to late to get the bonbons
Score
Killbox v8 36-7
Domebox 42-14
Really enjoyed and a pleasure to play against.
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DogSoldier
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Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 80 Location: North Carolina, USA Country:  Age: 51
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 08:25 Post subject:
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dog soldier how long do you game? |
I assume you mean how long do I game each day. I typically get in an hour or so every night. After the kids and wife have gone to bed and before I start working on my own projects.
Another thing I thought about, it really helps in Killbox maps to turn and check your rear every so often. You will many times turn around just in time to see someone getting ready to physics you with a sawblade.
And also, the best defense is a good offense. Perhaps it's not your D in you KpD, but rather your K's. I die a lot in a killbox game, but I also average nearly 3.5 kills per minute. Kill fast, kill often.
But, keep in mind I'm by far not the best player in TSGK. I'm sure some of the other guys have a lot more to offer.
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Xmeagol
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:40 Post subject:
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no i meant How long do you game
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DogSoldier
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 18:35 Post subject:
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If you mean, how long have I been gaming... since Atari had Pong. My first computer was a TRS 80.
I have been playing HL2 since it first came out. I've been playing HL2 Deathmatch since last September... so about 8 months.
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Xmeagol
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 18:45 Post subject:
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HL2 is the same as HL2DM, the experiance you have in HL2 is the same as HL2DM so you play for 2 years :p basicly
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[DOH] Half Life Half Bisc
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Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 256 Location: Two Chevrons Apart Country: 
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 18:52 Post subject:
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DrBreen wrote: |
HL2 is the same as HL2DM, the experiance |
er... don't think so... very few transferable skills between online and offline and the pace of the game is very different...
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The Borg_TSGK
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Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 2756 Location: Suffolk, England Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 22:25 Post subject:
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Back on track of the KPD.
I now have nearly 18,000 kills and 15,000 deaths. Unless i've worked this out my kpd will be on an exponential curve, meaning i will have to get increasingly more kills than deaths each time i play. i.e kpd 1.3 average this week kpd 1.35 next week, 1.42 week after, just to keep my global kpd level at 1.2.
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If i restart with another name i would only need to keep and average of 1.3 until i reach 5000 kills and would be able to have a try out.
This seems like a form of cheating, but doesn't seem to break any TSGK rules
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Controllerboy_TSGK
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Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 1025 Location: Ingelmunster, West of the Flanders, Flanders, Belgium Country:  Browser:  Age: 34
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 22:35 Post subject:
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Sniperborg wrote: |
If i restart with another name i would only need to keep and average of 1.3 until i reach 5000 kills and would be able to have a try out.
This seems like a form of cheating, but doesn't seem to break any TSGK rules  |
How would you do that ? You can start another ID, but your global score will keep showing 1.2. Only by buying a new half life copy you'll be able to restart (at least that's what I think)
Anyways dude, don't worry too much. I have a kpd of 1.18, it is going up (at least I hope so) the last two weeks, but you see this game is still made for having fun. I'm now around position 100 with the score of 12000 which is not bad IMHO, but yes, I do have a low kpd. It disables me of joining tsgk, but I am sure I enjoy this game just as much with a kpd of 1.18 as in the past (had 1.35 once)
just my 2 pence.
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Lawitz
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Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 2337 Country:  Browser:  Age: 36
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 23:46 Post subject:
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buying another account to get the kpd would show you don´t have the spirit to join tsgk. you have to be patient. also you have so few kills it should go quick if you don´t just fight the regular good players but just join a server with players you don´t know and which is not a full box. I´m not saying you should look for the weak ones only but not resctrict your games on full servers of good players like serv 1 most of the time. if you keep it balanced you can have 1.3 ratio and train with good people. also its better to play a bit more calm, you can learn to do things better in a box with some people where you have a lot of time instead of a full box where you die every few seconds.
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Zog Ecosse

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 788 Location: Lerwick Shetland Country:  Browser:  Age: 73
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 02:20 Post subject:
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Hi sniperdog, played u earlier tonight.
Zog, as a player, will never make the grade and would like to achieve a 1:1 ratio whilst playing with the big bots I mean boys. Here are a novices observations.
Hardware plays an important part. I went from a 3gig P4 with a Fx5200 card to an E6400 core duo and a 7600GS graphics card. My frustration turned to enjoyment.
Unless you were a good gamer before you took up HL2 DM, it will be very hard to recover from your "Novice" period. It would seem fairer to let a serious person qualify at say for arguments sake at 1:1 and then start an new KPD stats from scratch.
I had my points at over 6k and thought a session in less challenging field would help to consolidate that. As you rightly say, this does not help. I like to play with better players because, despite getting mauled, the enjoyment for me comes from just being able to hang in there and take a few scalps.
As the good man once said "all good things come to he who waits"
I have been trying to catch a 20lb+ ling for 32 years. I know I am good enough to do this and the equipment is second to none.
Hang in there
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Phat Bacon

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 1178 Location: Behind the Stick that killed you Country:  Browser:  Age: 32
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 03:52 Post subject:
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if you ask me, go to a server with a lot of people and go nuts. there is bound to be a few good people as well as noobs. for some reason noobs are attracted to big matches . anyway, it will be a long time before kpd goes up. for me it adjust about 1/100 a day depending on how i played. just hang in there, do not get a new account. that would show you are weak and take the easy road . enjoy
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The Borg_TSGK
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Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 2756 Location: Suffolk, England Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 13:52 Post subject:
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Diet H2O_TSGK
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Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 3282 Location: Ireland (right, left, then second on the right) Country:  Age: 53
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 13:59 Post subject:
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Sry, but I think a new account would not be acceptable to TSGK.
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[AgC]Flushthetoilet
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Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 458 Country:  Browser:  Age: 55
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 14:16 Post subject:
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Sigh... stats stats stats stats... just play the game to enjoy it. Its fun... thats all there is too it.
Becoming a stat whore will ruin your outlook on the game, you will allways have one eye on kpd and points....
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The Borg_TSGK
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 14:32 Post subject:
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[AgC]Flushthetoilet wrote: |
Sigh... stats stats stats stats... just play the game to enjoy it. Its fun... thats all there is too it.
Becoming a stat whore will ruin your outlook on the game, you will allways have one eye on kpd and points.... |
That the whole point, i am enjoying the game, i play mainly when there are other good plays such as pure slut and rublis are on server 1. I usually come around the top 4 with a score about 50 kills, 45 deaths. But to join TSGK , the only way to achieve kpd 1.3 is to play when lesser players are on. There seems to be no level of skill taken into account, i would prefer if it was done on a recommendation from a good player and not the amount of neewbies i've killed.
I hope this method will be incorerated into this teaching as and when it gets off the ground.
As to the method i described in the post above, i'm not going to take this road, i was just annoyed after playing 3 games on server 1. One of which i finished first and the other 2 where my kills where higher than my deaths, but when i looked at my stats i had gone down to kpd 1.9
Joining a clan to me is part of playing HL2DM, i have decided that this is the one i am aiming for, but my skill level isn't reflected in the way the stats are put together.
TSGK members please don't take this thread the wrong way, i want to do things properly i'm just a little fustrated in how its going.
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 14:37 Post subject:
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if you have to play with lesser players to get a tryout, do it! once you are ellegible for a tryout you and c pikpik can work on your skills and hopefully you will get in.
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Osiris_TSGK
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Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 4668 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 14:43 Post subject:
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Sniperborg wrote: |
[AgC]Flushthetoilet wrote: |
Sigh... stats stats stats stats... just play the game to enjoy it. Its fun... thats all there is too it.
Becoming a stat whore will ruin your outlook on the game, you will allways have one eye on kpd and points.... |
That the whole point, i am enjoying the game, i play mainly when there are other good plays such as pure slut and rublis are on server 1. I usually come around the top 4 with a score about 50 kills, 45 deaths. But to join TSGK , the only way to achieve kpd 1.3 is to play when lesser players are on. There seems to be no level of skill taken into account, i would prefer if it was done on a recommendation from a good player and not the amount of neewbies i've killed.
I hope this method will be incorerated into this teaching as and when it gets off the ground.
As to the method i described in the post above, i'm not going to take this road, i was just annoyed after playing 3 games on server 1. One of which i finished first and the other 2 where my kills where higher than my deaths, but when i looked at my stats i had gone down to kpd 1.9
Joining a clan to me is part of playing HL2DM, i have decided that this is the one i am aiming for, but my skill level isn't reflected in the way the stats are put together.
TSGK members please don't take this thread the wrong way, i want to do things properly i'm just a little fustrated in how its going. |
Just enjoy the game, after a while only the KpD in brakets will be took in consideration (this one show your improvement over the 7 days).
Eligibilities are lot more complex than just "Basic requirements rules".
Also, this thread should have been posted in your joining application as it is regarding your joining process and not a general discussion.
Thanks.
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The Borg_TSGK
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 18:05 Post subject:
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Osiris_TSGK wrote: |
Also, this thread should have been posted in your joining application as it is regarding your joining process and not a general discussion.
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Osiris, this started off as a general discussion on how to improve my game and then moved on a little, by all means move this thread and tag it onto my application.
You have given me new hope and motivation, with the information you have provided, thankyou
Look out server 1 i'm coming...
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JoshsFace
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 00:27 Post subject:
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im trying to join too. got my weapons usage good and chat clean, but my kpd is stuck at 1.24 been at that for like 2 weeks now gah! i cant get it up :p but, I've been staying in killbox and fighitng skillful players, because, my goal is to get better. Ive thought about going to like TDM servers and killing "less skilled players" but i decided that would be bad :p
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 02:14 Post subject:
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Haha, Controllerboy and Joshface's avatars are so funny
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